Support Thread for 2 to 1 nap transition cont.

[JaspersMum]

Your call Sabrina.  Personally I would offer two naps if I think LO is OT.

[scucci1979]

I gave her two naps today and she seemed to be better.  Is it better to alternate one nap days with two nap days or can I do two one nap days then one two nap days. ykwim?

[JaspersMum]

I'd do a few (1-3) one nap days and then a two nap day to catch up.  Probably not two nap days in succession as you really want her to get used to doing one nap days, i.e that is the norm.

[rach321]

Well we had the same as yesterday - I put him to bed at 6.30pm since he only took 1 nap at nursery (1hr20) then he woke up at 5am (again grrrrrrr!) we did PD until 6am then gave him his bottle, then he falls asleep in the car again on the way to nursery for 20 mins! He's obviously tired but why won't he just add this on to his night time sleep - I just don't get it. Tonight will be screwed up since its new years eve and he won't be sleeping at home. I feel like we are going backwards instead of forwards. Sorry - rant over!

[*Becky*]

Hi Rach,
For us that would be OT and as he is falling asleep so soon after waking it does seem so...can you remind me what his routine is at the moment i.e. what time does his nap start and how long is it? Is he 13 months???
bx

[rach321]

Hiya
His routine looks like this if he's at home

0500 wake up
0600 bottle
0700 breakfast
0830-900 nap (usually 1-1.5hrs)
snack when he wakes
1120-1200 lunch
1300-1330 nap (usually 45min -1hr)
snack sometime in the afternoon
1630-1700 dinner
1800-1830 bath
1830-1900 bed

But when he's at nursery (3 days a week) it looks like this

0500 wake
0600 bottle
0700 breakfast
0730 falls asleep in car for 30 mins till we get to nursery
1200 nap (1.5-2hrs) he has only ever take 1 nap at nursery and they do try really hard to try and get him to take two
1730 I pick him up from nursery sometimes he has a CN in the car on way home sometimes he doesn't
1800 get home then snack bath bottle and bed

I can't change anything about the nursery days so I make up for the 1 naps by having 2 naps on the other days of the week. He's 13 months, touchy/spirited and cutting molars.

[scucci1979]

Rachel: that is what I was planning to do.  Today and tomorrow am hoping for one nap days, followed by a two nap day to catch up.  I figure I should follow her cues in the morning and see how she handles her A. If she can't make it then it will be a two nap day.

Why can't it be easy.
The thing that really gets me upset is that I have to work next week so I have to rely on hubby to follow her cues.

[*Becky*]

2 things - molars cause hell or they did in our house and I also have a touchy/spirited bub. When he cut his first 2 molars he would wake around 5 and then be wanting a v early nap too. I would really persevere with getting him back to sleep when he wakes at that time - it is really hard but it means you can start the day at a reasonable time but I know you have nursery commitments.
The other thing is that some days he wakes at 5 and then does not go to bed until 6.30/7pm so that is a 14 hour day - v long!
If it was me I would def try to shorten that day and see if it helps at all. Also - did I mention Nurofen at bed? Worked well for us.....bx

[rach321]

Yep I do the nurofen thing most nights - hopefully these molars will cut soon.  Not much I can do about some of the long days especially when I'm working I don't pick him up until 5.30pm then we don't get home till 6pm so by time we've got organised its 6.30pm! Will keep doing PD when he wakes at 5am - hopefully he will eventually get the message or the molars will cut and things will settle down.  On the bright side he took a 2hr nap today at nursery which is really rare!  Thanks for all the advice - it means a lot and its nice to know I'm not the only one going through this!

[*Becky*]

anytime I know how awful those early mornings are and touchy/spirited babies are exhausting xxx

[scucci1979]

For my lo, it took a good 3/4weeks for her molars to cut.  Hang in there. It will get better. 

I have a question for everyone: At the moment, we seem to be alternating one nap with two nap days, depending how Madi feels.  Yesterday she woke up at 7:30am and it was a one nap day. Today she woke up at 7am, seemed tired, so it will be a two nap day.  Is it fine if her day fluctuates by 30mins? Prior to the one nap, I always woke her up at 7am.  Should I start her day at the same time everyday? I would think to let her sleep a little extra so it pushes our day forward, which gives us a 7:30pm bedtime.   

[JaspersMum]

Sabrina I think if what you've got going is working, then don't change it.  If Madi is happy, you are happy then go with the flow.  In the grand scheme of things I don't think 30 minutes makes much difference and I don't think starting the day at a certain time will matter IF YOU ARE HAPPY.  It sounds like you've got everything under control.  I wish it were the same over here!!  My DS doesn't want to go to bed at his usual time anymore - will yell and scream for a good hour!  The consequences of letting him have too many late nights!!

[Julianne1984]

Hey everyone me again! I thought we were getting somewhere finally at 19months, but nope,yesterday up at 5:20,today 4:45am!! Help! I'm doing something wrong iknow it! Y'day and day before he only had 1.5hr naps and is getting OT. I'm stuck now.xx

[scucci1979]

Rachel: hang in there with your lo. Sending lots of hugs.  I am planning to aim for more one nap days as she seems to be managing 4hrs and 45min of A time in the morning.  I don't want to give her too many late CNs as they are getting closer to bedtime which I believe is causing some EWs.  

[JaspersMum]

Thanks Sabrina.   Would you believe that last night I went out so DH had to put DS to bed - DH said there were tears all of 2-3 minutes and then he fell asleep.  I am so beginning to believe that he just does not want to be away from me and so much better behaved/less whingy when I'm not around.  He seemed to be very angry with me this morning though, almost like, you left me last night!

Julianne, I have no solutions for you unfortunately, only hugs.  Is it perhaps you just have an natural early bird?