Horrendous long NW with baby trying to crawl

[lily_layne]

Sending (((hugs))) and vibes that all goes well.

For quite a while, DD would surprise me with ss for a nap here and there and now she does it on her own almost all of the time.  I always gave her a chance to ss but jumped in if she needed help.  I'm betting T will do the same!

[stuckunderhere]

cant wait for E to learn to ss properly... there are days where I just wanna rip my hairs out!

[ZacsMumme]

... there are days where I just wanna rip my hairs out!

It would be less painful!

So night after miserable night was good 2 NW to feed and that's it! 12 hr night
Last night in between, a few replugs. A few terrible feeding attempts. Acid breath is back. I guess we just have to work with him for now reading about other mums with MSPI LOs rubbish sleep is common

[lily_layne]

More ((((hugs)))).

[Summergirl]

Wow...this sounds exactly like my 7month LO....night wakings exactly the same....right down to the ongoing constipation which she is on Lactulose for also.
I have no answers just sympathy! Hopefully we have a break through soon!

[katie80]

reading about other mums with MSPI LOs rubbish sleep is common

(((Hugs))), Sara. It's just not fair. Poor babies and parents.

[ZacsMumme]

Hey ladies, I thought (if it's ok) rather than start a new thread I'd just post here as T is such a confusing and sore wee thing.

Since cutting pear he is sleeping so much better. I think he is caught up on his OT build up - we have had three good nights 12 hrs plus with only short NW (and not 100 of them ) last night we had a happy 2am NW for an hour, then he slept I till 7 and when I checked him he was awake happily playing in his cot!

So...given that he isn't in pain and now 7 months (today!) I think he needs more A, we gave him EBT every night because he was so terribly uncomfortable. But he does 14 or so in 24 so I think I need to balance his day a little now he isn't in pain.

Here was the last 24 hours
WU 6.30 after 12.5 hr night!
Nap 9.40-10.50 (I think UT)
Nap 1.45 (woke at 45, resettled till) 3.40
BT 6.50
NW 7.40, 10 (fed) NW 2 (leaked, changed and fed) awake till 3.30! (Bless DH dealing with it!)
WU 7ish (I checked at 7.08

Nap 9.45 (I'm sure ill get an UT nap, but I have to go out at 11)

I know ENW usually mean OT but I think we always get 35/40 min WU with UT - could this be possible?

[katie80]

I know ENW usually mean OT but I think we always get 35/40 min WU with UT - could this be possible?

I tend to think anything is possible with babies, LOL. . My theory has always been that waking during the sleep cycle at certain times can be either OT or UT and it totally depends on the baby and how he is waking. If it's your gut feeling that it's UT, then it's worth pursuing.  Has it gotten better since cutting out pear?

Glad to hear you're getting better nights!

[stuckunderhere]

happy to hear things are working themselves out on your end with T

Eli is still all over the place at night...

[ZacsMumme]

Katie - yes literally I cut pear and within 24 hrs he was sleeping like4-7 hr stretches last night was our best night yet!
So rest of EAS was
Nap 9.45-11
Nap 2.10-3 extended till 3.30 (I think both naps UT but OT by BT as he was fussy at BT
BT 6.45 NW 7.30 (there is my UT theory gone though! usually the NW is 50/1 hr in)
NF 11
WU 5.40 out of cot 6

I'm so stoked - 2 NW and ~11 hr night is awesome considering his routine a bit wonky now

I tend to only get 1.5 hr naps if his night is awful and i push his A as well

[katie80]

I tend to only get 1.5 hr naps if his night is awful and i push his A as well

Tricky little man! Roll on one nap, hey?!? . Better nights are way better than long naps though, esp with #2!

Yay for the best night yet!

[ZacsMumme]

Yeah, Im happy with his am being 1hr15 if it needs to be, but I do think he needs a more settled pm. I'm hoping it will come with his shorter but more settled nights YK?

I guess today marks the opportunity to have a longer day and push A a touch. DH is in charge as I'm off to get a HAIRCUT and colour (haven't had one since T was born!) so I think ill ask him to hold T out a little longer. He is better than I am at extending. I tend to pike.

* I just got corrected by DH, he settled himself at 40 mins, we didn't go in till 8.45 for a quick replug.

[ZacsMumme]

Hugs Sarah. X

[Erin M]

Excellent Sarah, glad you're getting some better nights!  With James, it was always how we woke and not when he woke that helped me figure if he was ut, ot, or whatever.  Hope your haircut was fabulous, it always makes me feel wonderful!

[ZacsMumme]

Thanks Erin. I actually do feel fabulous! I forgot how much a good hair cut and colour can make a woman feel!

So were in a pickle...I'm not sure what needs to change. Nights have defiantly settled down. Here is last night and today so far. Is the pm nap I think now needs a tweak (sorry I know we are in NW)

Bt 7
NW 8.20 replug
NF 11
NF 4 (lately its just been the 1 feed but last night he woke again so DH feed as solids have been cut right back)
WU 6
Nap 9.10-10.30
Nap 2-2.40 then resettle and asleep on DH in chair

So we pushed the am A 10 mins and still getting 1hr20 but I'm happy with it because its 2 sleep cycles for t.
The pm nap is consistently a resettle...even with gently extending or not. today we pushed to 3.5 just to see ow he was but same old 40 min resettle.

He seems tired by 3-3hrs15 between pm and Bt so not sure if his mid nap wakes are actually OT?