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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #165 on: August 30, 2013, 14:22:56 pm »
You don't think it is too early? Only 3hr A? He did 5hr A in the am


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #166 on: August 30, 2013, 14:29:36 pm »
I don't really know but he seems to like shorter pm A.  That is why I said, watch him.  It also depends if you want to keep the late bt.  If so, keep it late.  Do one hour later?



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #167 on: August 31, 2013, 12:44:28 pm »
How was his night?



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #168 on: August 31, 2013, 12:51:32 pm »
Asleep at 1930. One nw from 0200-0255 and awake at 0650. 10.5hrs so i guess ot... You were probably right and i should have put him to bed earlier. This morning we went to the mall. He fell asleep in the car on the way home at 1240-1305. Resettled in car at 1320 and i moved him to his bed at 1350. He is still sleeping. I dont know when to do bt. I guess i have given up on the idea of keeping him with a late bt. I think it is better i have him catch up. He is so tired...


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #169 on: August 31, 2013, 14:20:09 pm »
He woke at 1530. Should I do a 12hr day (650pm) or earlier?


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #170 on: August 31, 2013, 16:53:46 pm »
I decided to do a 11.5hr day but he is just lying there with his eyes wide open. I dont think he is tired...

Asleep at 1925. 4hr A. Lets see what the night brings...
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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #171 on: August 31, 2013, 18:37:54 pm »
Sorry for not replying earlier.  FX for tonight! 



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #172 on: August 31, 2013, 19:04:24 pm »
I hope so koe, this child is a mystery to me! You would think with so many short nights last week he would be tired after an 11.5hr day...


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #173 on: August 31, 2013, 19:12:10 pm »
I always say that it's an X file to get DS's sleep sorted!! ;D 

It wasn't really an 11.5h day, though, not the way I see it, well one of my theories :P  He slept 2.5h, so his total A time for the day is 9h.  It doesn't mean that he can do 9h stretch in one go.  It is to find that magic balance that he's tired enough to take the nap, refreshed by the nap, to carry on for the rest of the day AND enough total A for the long night sleep. 

The 12h night sleep was after 12h day with 2h nap, so 10h total A.  Today he slept almost 3h, a bit broken but i don't think it matters as the wake up time is important.  He was up 6:50, asleep at 7:25pm.  9.5h total A.  I'm not sure if this theory applies to him yet, or he needs fixed body clock sleep schedule, so we shall see! 



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #174 on: August 31, 2013, 19:17:50 pm »
What day do you mean?? I think you mean this??

WU 0615
A 6hr20
S 1235-1403
A 4hr asleep at 4hr15
BT 1805 asleep at 1820
NW 1900 co, ss
NW 2200-2220
NW 0300 co, ss
NW 0430 co, ss
WU 0550


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #175 on: August 31, 2013, 19:43:31 pm »
I meant the 6:45-6:45.  I go by the good day.



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #176 on: August 31, 2013, 19:51:53 pm »
Here it is plus the day before and after

09/08
WU 0610
A 6hr03
S 1213-1335
A 5hr10
BT 1845
WU 0525

10/08
WU 0525
A 6hr43
S 1207-1350
A 4hr55
BT 1845
NW 0400 co, ss
WU 0645

11/08
WU 0645
A 5hr10
S 1155-1315
A 5hr30
BT 1845
WU 0535


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #177 on: August 31, 2013, 19:55:54 pm »
You can see that day was actually super long so i think he might of just ended up crashing but i think you still may be right about the 10hr total...
But even so, if he is very ot, do you think he still needs a 10hr total and not shorter?? What about dependent on nap length? For example: 5hr A, 2hr nap, 5hr A.
What if nap is 1.5hrs? Or 2.5hrs? Still 10hr total??


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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #178 on: August 31, 2013, 20:13:00 pm »
If this theory holds for him, then the key is to find that optimal point to get him tired enough to take that nap.  We worked out that it's likely around 5.5 when he's reasonably rested the night before.  What about the days just before the holiday?  First A closer to 5.5, check the 2nd A to tweak.  Yes i would go by total A 10h.  That way he won't get OT, that is. 



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Re: Habitual waking
« Reply #179 on: August 31, 2013, 20:24:20 pm »
The last few days before the holiday the mornings were very long since we were doing set nap (6hr20-6hr45 A)
Then in the afternoon the A times were between 4hr15 and 5hr. Long days with nights around 10.5hrs.