Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4

[Papaya]

Yay, glad to hear things are going well! (Hope he doesn't change things on you too soon )

[Charlygirl]

Hey girls, I hv a question, this 2-1 thing is tricky hey...my LO has been flopping between twoband one nap for the past two months... She is 16months and used to do a twenty min cn about 10am and then a good hour and a half three hours after waking from cn.. Over past week or so the second nap has gotten shorter and shorter and yesterday was only an hour... Today I tried for one nap, put her in cot at 1140am and she was asleep by 1145 but only slept an hour and a half, should I put her to bed a little later maybe?? Any suggestions would b great!! Thanks, Charly xx

[Papaya]

What's your WU? That sounds like a good time to start with one nap (or even a little earlier if your WU is before 7 - we had nap at 11.15 to start with ). I would stick with it for 4-5 days to see if that nap lengthens out as she gets used to just having the one. Until it does, EBT can help to avoid OT!

[Charlygirl]

Well this morn she woke at 650am.... And I was running late at the dr so got her into bed at 12. She woke at 120pm very unhappy... So thinking OT? Should I aim for 1130 am tomorrow... Generally what 4.5hrs from WU? Thanks for advice xx will put her to bed early tonite!!

[Papaya]

Yeah, anything under 2hrs is probably OT at this stage. Is 7am your usual WU? I'd do an 11.30 nap and stick with it for several days so she has a chance to get used to it - if the nap is short, do EBT, but do the same nap time the next day. My LO did 13 hr nights when we first made the jump, for the first time in her life, so we only needed 4.5hr A either side of a good nap. After a week you'll probably be able to push the nap later by 15 mins

[Charlygirl]

Ok cool thanks will try tomorrow and be consistent with 1130... She generally wakes between 630 and 7am.  If she wakes at 630 should I do 11am? Or is that too early?

[Papaya]

Will she be happy if you leave her in the cot til 7 and say your day starts then? I'd try to keep the nap time fairly consistent and see how you go, maybe put down 10 mins early if she is awake early and seems really tired.

[theu.s.lees]

Any tips on what it means if my son always struggles with the last hour of sleep in the morning? He WU between 6:30 and 7 am, but starting around 5:50 - 6:15 he will cry out, then resettle quickly and go back to sleep. Then 10-15 minutes later, he will do it again, readjusting how he's sleeping in the crib. Plus, no matter what time he goes to bed (5:30 if poor napping to 7:30 for a good nap day) he always wakes up between 6:30 & 7 with the same struggles.

Typical day is

7:00 WU
10:00 CN (25 minutes)
1:30-1:45 Nap (approx 2 hours, if 2.5 we generally wake him up)
7:00 - 7:300 BT (or 3 - 3.5 hours after he wakes up from his nap)

Thank you.

[Papaya]

Could he be teething? My LO is always really unsettled in the early hours, and usually has an EW, when she's teething...

[theu.s.lees]

We figured out that my son is sick (sad), only because the entire family came down with the stomach bug. I thought I had food poisoning because it came on so quickly for my and DH, but I think we all have/had some form of flu.

Given that, if he needs extra attention to go down at night (to be held to sleep), is this a horrible idea? He's been getting horrible gas/diarrhea just before bed and so he'd start screaming if we put him in his crib. Finally he'd relieve it but then struggle to settle. He would be fine in my arms. Should I worry about helping him so much while he's sick? He's barely eating, but been in good spirits during the day, and doing okay (except for today) with his naps. I hate to have him feel that I'm not there when he really needs me.

[*Kara*]

do what you have to while he is sick hun... common to need extra snuggles and such for sure!

[Charlygirl]

hey girls, have been trying to be really consistent with the 1130am put to bed for nap, however I'm only getting one hour and a half and today i got just an hour. Poor thing is getting big bags under her eyes and i know she must be tired, but we just can't seem to get a decent nap. I keep putting her to bed early at say 620 or 630pm, she will usually sleep until 630am-7am.  Should I keep persisting with the 1130am, my girlfriends all keep saying put her down later at say 1230 for her to sleep longer?  Do you think this is correct?? I don't want her to get even more overtired.  I did last week try to put a two nap day in there to see whether she napped better, but she ended upi doing 20mins at 945 and then three hours after wakeup I tried to get her to nap again for a decent nap and she only napped 50mins.  So does that mean she has moved on from 2 nap days?? I thought that when they start to take shorter and shorter naps in arvo it meant they were ready to move to 1 nap?  Sorry I'm rambling, just really want her to have a decent nap but we never seem to get there??
Any help would be really appreciated!!!
Thanks, Charly xx

[theu.s.lees]

Charly - From what I've read (honestly, we are not to just one nap yet), 1.5 hrs and under is OT. Try putting her down a little earlier for her nap. You should be able to eventually move that back a little bit, but I think for right now, she's too tired by nap time. It may bring in her BT or the need for a CN.

[*Kara*]

1.5 hrs and under is OT.

Actually, anything under 2 hrs is generally OT

[theu.s.lees]

Is that true if there is only one nap? My son still has a CN and a regular nap, so I'm happy with 2 hrs!