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« Reply #375 on: September 01, 2005, 22:53:17 pm »
There's a place in Austin that makes the best burritos - it's called Freebirds.  I don't know where it is in Austin, but I used to go to the ones in College Station.  I have made dh drive with me two hours out of the way (from San Antonio to Houston) to go to Freebirds in College Station.
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« Reply #376 on: September 02, 2005, 00:10:33 am »
Vidya, what a beautiful little girl you have!  I noticed her earrings, too, after noticing her big, beautiful eyes.
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« Reply #377 on: September 02, 2005, 04:19:45 am »
Asher started sitting really well this evening.  Previously, he'd topple within a few minutes if I put him in a sit position.  But as of tonight, he has been able to put himself in a sit position (from a crawl) and sit for quite a long time playing.  It's amazing.  It's like it suddenly clicked.  He also has perfected his standing.  He's getting much better at getting back down himself as well.  I haven't needed to rescue him as much the last couple days.  We tried rice again this morning and I didn't notice any ill effects.  I mixed it with EBM and he still didn't like it (and gagged!  :lol: ), but once I mixed in some bananas, he liked it just fine.  I'm going to try avocadoes on Saturday.  I REALLY hope he likes them because I bought a whole bunch (and they're really good for him)!  :lol:

Christine: Lately, Asher seems to wake between 6-6:30 and whines.  When it escalates into a cry, I go in and resettle him.  He promptly puts his thumb in his mouth and acts like he's going back to sleep.  About the minute I get back into bed (or get all comfy), he starts whining again and the cycle continues until I get him up at 7:00.  Rarely does he fall back asleep.  I've tried feeding him a few times at that hour and putting back to bed, but he proceeds to play for a good 15 minutes or more before falling asleep.  Before you know it, it's already 7:00, so I just don't know if it's worth it.  Plus, I don't think he's waking from hunger because he goes from 6:30 pm to 1 or 2 am until he feeds again.  So it's only been 4 or 5 hours really.   :?  I just don't know.  I tried wake-to-sleep for about 2 weeks and it just seemed to make it worse.

Vidya: Love the earrings!  You should use that photo as your new avatar!  Someday I'm sure Asher will want his ears pierced as well.  And Daddy will have to go take him.  I don't have my ears pierced!  I'm a chicken!  :shock:
Asher's always had at least one night waking to eat, but since he was about 4-5 months old, it's been consistently more (though still only one feeding).  And the early waking has always been a problem.  When did you try formula?  Before solid food?  I wonder if it would work now that he's getting solids.  Especially since the number of minutes he nurses has gone down slightly in the last week (was 8-10 min for a full feed, is now only 5-6 min).  I have never DF because I didn't mind the one night feed (when that's all it was!). I've also tried nursing MANY times a day to up his intake and that didn't work at all!  He's now getting 3 solids meals a day, about 3 oz each, plus he nurses from both sides.  I still think he's getting a good 40 oz from me a day!  You'd THINK it'd be enough!  :?
When we were dropping the catnap, we had to move his bedtime up to compensate (never effected his night wakings though).

Deborah:
DH is willing to help on weekends.  The one night he tried to help me, Asher finished all of what I had pumped and still wanted more, so I had to get up.  He had woken early to eat and DH wasn't sure about holding him off, so he ended up waking a second time later in the night to eat AGAIN.  So I had to get up again because all the pumped milk was gone.  It was a disappointing disaster and I haven't tried since.  Especially since Asher now drinks a good 12 oz in one sitting.  It takes me a few days to figure out how to pump that much!
On his night wakings, I can resettle him other ways most times.  But if he wakes between 12:30-3:00, I automatically feed him because it's been at least 6 hours.  I've tried holding him off a few times and he ends up waking every hour after -- so that makes me think it's hunger.  But now that he's cut down his nursing time at night by a few minutes this week, I wonder if he's ready.  I never tried having DH hold him off.  Do you think if we endured the multiple wakings and DIDN'T feed him, he'd stop waking after a few days?
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« Reply #378 on: September 02, 2005, 06:04:10 am »
welcome Sandie!  there is actually a whole other thread that we already closed down - we write a lot and have a big group i guess.
it will be a great way to catch up if you fill in the questionnaire too.  ask us anything if you are not sure about us...

Vidya - that photo is gorgeous!!

can't comment just yet on anyone else (am being selfish) I am having a horrible week and finally have to admit it!  i have been crying on and off the past 2 days.  i know part of it is the PMS / medication not working so i am feeling the PPD  :cry:  but i think olivia is teething and it is BAAAAD.  my non-crier has been so sensitive these past 2 days and crying so much, not napping or eating well (except just after i give her pain relief).  this morning i put her down at 9am and she fussed and cried until 9:45 (i thought she was overtired) and then i realized she was in pain  :oops: i tried to give her panadol and she screamed the whole time (i had to squeeze her cheeks to get an entry to her mouth), finally crying to Dh on the phone he calmed me down  "she is just teething.  she is in pain.  you are doing all you can for her,etc" told me to get out of the house so i took the girls for a walk to the playground so at least alex could play and climb while i walked trying to put olivia to sleep (no luck!!).  she was up from 7am until 1pm and then slept 1hr before meds wore off again.   is now having nap at almost 4pm and i hope she sleeps for an hour and a half because my mother's helper is here for another hour and i am going to lay down!

i feel like this week i have been such a cr@p mom - i have been so tired and snappy again.  when olivia was whinging for food the other day whe i was trying to give alex lunch, she would not stop and the sound was getting under my skin and i actually said  :oops:  "if you don't stop i am going to kill myself".  i did not mean it and felt terrible - i just wanted some quiet for a second instead of 2 kids needing me at the same time... i was only grateful that alex does not know what those words mean - although she recognizes the stress.  i am crying writing this and need to lay down (but am already thinking about the food i have to get ready for their dinners)
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« Reply #379 on: September 02, 2005, 12:54:59 pm »
JulieB - 12oz in one sitting! :shock: Wow!  That would pose challenge to pumping.  I left a 6oz bottle for Maya the other night for her bedtime feed.  There was 2.5oz left.  I would expect she normally gets more, but she could never down 12oz.  I had some ideas, but it was getting kind of long, so I PM'd you.

Deb - Hang in there.  It's almost the weekend.  We're thinking of you.
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« Reply #380 on: September 02, 2005, 13:20:07 pm »
Vidya-the eyes...oh, so pretty!!  I was just showing them to my dh.  Good luck on your trip to Austin, my dh really likes it there- very hip he says.

JulieB- I have to agree with Deborah on the dh strategy. My husband is the key to night wakings.  He is so good with her at night because I will feed and well, he doesn't have a milk booby :wink:  :lol:  He can usually get her back in 20 min or less whereas with me it will take much longer.  I also agree on the dreamfeed going to formula.  I think that could very well solve some issues for you.  If your lo downs 12 oz, unless you are committed to pumping I don't see that working for you. (this is coming too from a dedicated pumper who gets 7 oz in 5 min)  I seem to be a rare case though, and that is after months and months of working a pump schedule.  You can slowly introduce formula to him- I would avoid the milk based ones as you are so worried about allergies.  I think Deb and Heather could have a formula suggestion for you- b/c of reflux, etc?

Heather- I have the same Hyland teething tabs that JulieB uses and also Camilia by Boiron.  I got those at the local organic food store. Tabs pretty cheap but the Boiron was a little pricey at $11 but seems to be stronger.  Both seems to really help Eirwen, even better than motrin sometimes, but tylenol does help her sleep.  I don't like medicating her but there is nothing else to do.  Yesterday we had meltdown after meltdown and poor naps :cry: then she woke up at 9:00pm screaming holding her head. This morning is even worse...I honestly don't know how parents survive these times.  I mean when they are hungry you feed, tired they sleep but this teeth thing. I feel like I can't do anything for her.  I guess that is why I personally don't feel bad loading her up on remedies.  I mean the poor baby can't even sleep! (which she loves) and sucking her thumb is not nice right now.  I'm at a loss.  Wait! I know how they survived by rubbing alcohol on their gums...guess we can't do that now huh :wink:

Deb- as you can see from my reply to Heather I am right there with you!  Eirwen cried 2 hrs at the doc yesterday and she got so splotchy and red that the nurse asked "is she here for that rash?"  Noooooo :roll: I told them we are both fair and I am the same way.  I felt so bad for her.  She was soooo tired too (missed nap) and hungry (didn't take a full feed).  I hate it when people look at you like a bad mom when your baby cries.  Everyone kept asking me what was wrong with her.  I kept saying "she has a front tooth coming in and missed her nap."  People looked at me like I was nuts.  I guess they just let their babies pass out wherever when they get tired.  GRRRRR  I was so stressed yesterday and had a total meltdown that dh came home from work to help me with house stuff (if all of this wasn't enough we have a flea nightmare in our house and everything must be washed, sprayed, etc.)  I am so glad you have a helper.  I told dh too yesterday that if we weren't moving I would need at least a maid to come in once a week.  I just cannot keep up. :oops:

Your babies will forgive you. I admit it yesterday I stopped "comforting" her at the docs.  The crying had just gone on too long.  I looked at her and said "you just let it out ok and I'll be right here." :cry:

Feel free to PM me about your meds.  I have been going through a similar thing as well.

US- well all of the above was us. :roll:   The only thing to add to this is that Eirwen's ped does think she needs an ultrasound of her hips. Her folds/rolls are fine, but her left one is I guess VERY flexible which could be why she is not bearing weight on her legs.  He also wants to get me on a waiting list for a pediatric neurologist just because they schedule so far out, so if she continues to be behind in gross motor skills she'll have an apt.  It is strange though because she is "ahead" in other areas.  He did not believe me about the pincer grip but she showed him. :wink: Basically it is when the child is behind in more than one area that they start to get really worried, which she is not.  He said it was also kind of strange because she is now sitting so well. :? So I guess all of this is precautionary which is good, but stressful because I don't want something to be wrong. :(

Our routine- gone to hell.  we try to stick to feed times and our bedtime but naps are now by luck or after she's been up 3+ hrs and is exhausted.

Welcome Sandie!
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« Reply #381 on: September 02, 2005, 14:30:34 pm »
Debra and Branwen, I'm so sorry for the hard times you are going through.  Kelsey's teething seems to be coming and going.  Some days she's miserable, other's she's manageable.  I will have to search for the teething tablets.
Debra, we all have those moments when we say something we don't mean.  The important thing is that you don't mean it, but it helps to vent some frustration.  I know that none of us want to do it in front of our lo's, but it happens that way sometimes.  You are a very strong woman to being caring for 2 small children full time, a fine example to all of us for all of the hard work you have put in to caring for them and their particular needs.  Think of all the strides you have taken to understand them and relate to them.  Your girls will be all the better for the love you are giving them.  {{{HUGS}}}
And Branwen, I totally understand the way people make you feel when you're trying your best to console a crying baby.  I just want to say, "don't you remember that you were a baby once, too?"  Grrrr is right.  You're doing wonderful and react the best ways possible to her needs.  {{{HUGS}}}
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« Reply #382 on: September 02, 2005, 17:37:07 pm »
Debra, you NEED to make a doctor's appointment for yourself, right away :!:   You have to help yourself first and then you'll have more patience for the Olivia and Alex.

It's terrible when they go thru the teething stuff.  So far we've only have one bad time that lasted about 48 hrs.  We kept giving infant advil.  What are you using for pain relief?  With us the tylenol did nothing and the advil was like a miracle.  Try different medications.  Don't worry about giving it lots, because it's only going to be for a couple of days. 

Another suggestion is to get dh to take over with Olivia once he's home from work, again I wouldn't feel bad about asking this cause it's only short term.

When I'm about to lose it I turn away and say loudly 'deep breath...deep breath' as I breath deeply and this helps a little.  Also, Emily finds this interesting and her mood relaxes which inturn relaxes me.  This is kind of silly but I find that if I look at Emily's feet I think...oh they're so cute and how can I get mad at this cute little foot.  That also helps me.

Oh another idea...plop both of them down in front of the TV and put on your Baby Einstein videos.  Even if it's just for 15mins it could give you a breather.

Remember to check in with your doctor. (I hope I'm not being too forceful but I soooo want you to feel good again.)  I'll be thinking of you.

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« Reply #383 on: September 02, 2005, 17:50:08 pm »
deb & branwen - (((((HUGS))))) deb, it's now the weekend for you, and branwen you're almost there!!!

i'm in the same teething boat.  luke's been working on 2 and they WON'T CUT THROUGH  :evil:  he's spent the last couple of days with his fist permanently jammed into his mouth chomping away.

question 1:  how can you get a non-mobile baby to expend more energy?  luke was up at 5am  :!: not crying or anything, but he spent close to 2 hours just kicking his mattress.  i need to get this out of him during the day!

question 2:  has anyone started their period again yet?  i guess i'm mainly asking those of you who were bf and then switched to ff.... but i'm just wondering.  haven't seen mine yet & quit nursing over a month ago.
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« Reply #384 on: September 02, 2005, 18:23:08 pm »
Jaime, I actually got mine at 3 months while I was still nursing.  Now they are worse than they've ever been, and I'm on the pill.  I felt so sick last month, that if I hadn't known any better I would have swore I was pregnant.  But I'm not :!:
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« Reply #385 on: September 02, 2005, 18:26:14 pm »
We had an interesting night.  Asher went to bed late because we had a bunch of high school kids over.  He slept until 3 AM without waking (unusual, but he was exhausted).  Since he normally eats between 12:30-2:30, I decided to see if I could hold him off.  He fussed for a minute or two and slept another 50 minutes.  I resettled again and he didn't wake until 6:20!  :shock:   I thought he HAD to be starving for sure, but I just went in and gave him his luvie.  I got back to bed and expected to hear him within 5 min.  BUT HE WENT RIGHT BACK TO SLEEP!!  :shock:  :D  Then I got him up at 7 am as normal.  I couldn't wipe the smile off my face this morning!  I know he didn't sleep through, but with no night feedings, I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel!!  :D  :D  Maybe we'll give this another try tonight.

Deb: I certainly hope you get some rest!  There is hope, teething doesn't last forever!  Here's hoping tomorrow is better!  And I can relate on the whining and comment you made.  I only have one, but some days his whining drives me absolutely bonkers.   :shock:   Those days I try to get out and go somewhere.  It seems to distract him long enough to stop the whining until we get back home.   :roll:

Deborah: Thanks for all the ideas in the PM!  Not too sure what we'll try tonight.  I'll have to talk to DH and see what he thinks.

Branwen:  I had to laugh about the "rash."  Asher gets that when he cries a lot as well.  Looks kinda like a clown because his eyelids get so red.  My Dad & his wife were watching Asher and panicked when they saw this "rash" break out (duh, he was just mad because you didn't follow Mama's directions!  :? ).   :roll:   Does anyone else write out two pages of directions when you leave your LO with family or a sitter?   :lol:   They all think I'm crazy until Asher starts yelling -- then they're scrambling to read the notes!

Jaime:
  I think kicking the mattress is actually a phase or new skill.  Asher expells PLENTY of energy through the day, but he STILL kicks on his back like a madman.  I think he's going to launch off sometimes.   :shock:   Or hurt his heels!  My friend's baby started doing this as well a month ago.  I joke that Asher actually has Restless Leg Syndrome.  I honestly don't think he can control himself sometimes!  :shock:
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« Reply #386 on: September 02, 2005, 18:33:07 pm »
"Restless Leg Syndrome"-I'm glad to have a name for it.  I can't change a diaper anymore because her legs are going a mile a minute.  I wonder where's she's trying to go; it looks like she's riding a bike like Lance Armstrong!  When I lay her in her crib, there's usually one good slam of her legs on the mattress as she's settling.
Forget the notes to the sitter or family, I have to leave them for dh  :roll: .  Right down to how many scoops of food, and which outfit and where it is in the dresser.  Now, this may sound nit-picky, but he will always find the few things that don't fit or aren't seasonal.  I mean really, the current stuff is in the top drawer, who goes all the way to the bottom?
But, yes, I leave detailed notes for everyone-what time, what to do, what she will do, why she will do it, all other possible things she might do, what she will want to do, etc...
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« Reply #387 on: September 02, 2005, 18:40:23 pm »
oh good, i'm glad i'm not the only one who has "baby riverdance"  :!:  :roll:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #388 on: September 02, 2005, 18:53:43 pm »
Maya pounds the mattress too, even in her sleep.
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« Reply #389 on: September 02, 2005, 19:10:50 pm »
Quote from: jaime-jaina&luke
oh good, i'm glad i'm not the only one who has "baby riverdance"  :!:  :roll:  :lol:  :lol:

ROTFLMBO  :lol:  :lol:

What a funny way to think of it.  Still laughing!!!
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