just can't get it right - part 3!

[~inbalance~]

Wow, Bella is a big healthy girl!  I'm sure not moving has a lot to do with it, I think that's part of the reason Tristan is so little, he never stops moving!  Even before he could move on his own, we would put him in the jolly jumper and he would go nuts. 

It's just another testimony of how different babies are.  Toni, I wouldn't worry about her being too big.  Babies are supposed to pack on the weight, it's healthy.  I'll bet when she does start crawling and/or walking, she'll thin out quite a bit.  She does look so content in pictures to just sit though, what a cutie pie!  Always big smiles! 

Do you mind me asking how many oz she eats at her meals? 

As for the crawling, I think she will do it when she's ready.  Tristan really surprised me, he developed properly but was more slow and steady, getting there in small paces.  Then all of a sudden he kicked it into action, so maybe she will be the same.  Try getting down and crawling with her, and physically moving her legs in a crawling motion or holding her in a crawling position.  I used to do that for Tristan.  As for things to encourage her to move, well all the 'off limits' stuff works best for Tristan.     He's most motivated to move towards things he can't have, especially electronics, i.e. computer, remotes.  I've discovered a world of 'toys' in the kitchen, tupperware, large utensile (nothing sharp obviously!), plastic bowls & cups.  Chances are, if it's new he wants it, if it's something he's already seen, forget it.   

Some babies skip crawling, I know MIL says DH went straight to walking. 

[hjrmom01]

Toni, I wouldn't worry about Bella being static. She'll get there in her own time.  Does she stand well if you hold her?  There are these things called walking wings (I can copy a link if you want to see them) and if she stands well or even makes walking movements with her legs that could be one way to get her moving.  I agree with Martina on the "off limits" toys....worked for H!!!  Once H started rolling that's how he got to things he wanted....again off limit "toys" were motivation.  I don't think you can MAKE your child start crawling or walking before they are ready. It's kinda like sleeping...you can offer the right environment and make the conditions right as best as you can...but they have to do the rest!

[~inbalance~]

Well, we are having an ok day so far.  Breakfast was good, Tristan ate most of it.  I wasn't sure what A time we were looking at as I didn't know if I should count from 6:55 when he got up even though we still had the EW at 5:45.  I went from 6:55 and just watched him for cues.  When he looked good and tired I put him down, around 9:30.  He protested a bit, but only 5mins of wiwo was necessary.  Hear him stir at 30mins but didn't wake.  Then he cried once after an hour, was quiet for 10mins so thought he might have gone back to sleep, but then was up 10mins later.     He's pretty happy though, I suspect that morning A could have bit a bit longer, but that's ok. 

Got his first big nasty bruise today though.  Crawled into the side of the counter!     Yup, headfirst right into it.  Got over it fairly quicky though, as usual, but right away a big, blue welt appeared.  I'm not one to worry whe he bumps his head (he does it all the time!), but I will admit for a bit after I saw the bruise I was scared that it was serious, but he's totally fine and and just has a nice big, blue bump on his forehead.     I should take a picture of it!

[*Liz*]

Ah poor Tristan - little baby bruise  .

My idiotic DH thinks is a good idea for J to bump so he gets used to his limits. I, on the other hand, think smacking his head on the mantlepiece might put him off trying for a while.

Toni - J isn't moving yet either. He's trying really hard but just spends the whole day leaning forwards onto his belly and then moaning when he can't get anywhere. I'm hoping he figures it soon. If Bella is a bigger baby sometimes it does take them a little longer as they need to be stronger to do it iyswim? Don't know what J's excuse is - he is still only 16lb 10!! And wearing 3-6 mth clothes  .

J has a snotty nose and a while spot on his upper gum - think I might know why he was up all night now. And the poor boy is so constipated  . He just keeps straining, and if he does pass anything he cries  . I'm treating it but I think we have to get some hard stuff out first. He's getting stuck in the middle of going, and even had some blood yesterday evening. I know there are loads of laxative foods - but he will not eat them!!

[hjrmom01]

ohhh, poor Tristan and his bruise!    Take pictures...it's the first of many!!!  I'm going out of my mind this afternoon. H had a good first nap, 1 hr and 20 min but since 2pm has been nothing but WHINY!!!  I feed him at 2:30 and it was a struggle, why he isn't hungry I have no idea.  Had 5 oz this am at 7:30.  Finally over 45 min managed 6.5 oz, which is ok...but it was lots of crying and breaks to play.  I thought that the fight to get him to eat would be over if we went to 3 bottles.  I tried to get some orajel on his gums but it's SO difficult...gave him some Tylenol, too just incase.  I think we're going to go for a walk again to pass the time until nap number 2 (which I'm sure will be a bust as usual!)  And Dh just left to go golfing with his grandpa...he used his favorite line "it'll be easier for you with me out of the house."  I cut him a little slack since he did take DH this morning for a while while I showered and when I came down he had already made H breakfast  Didn't do too bad either...except for the cookies that were on the tray (he thought they were crackers  )

[clazzat]

I have had such a horrible day - I'm feeling really down and like a terrible mother as I have just been so on edge that I have been shouting at M for everything (and obviously as a result she's been behaving badly so I have more to shout about etc...).

We started okay - E woke up 2 or 3 times in the night but put herself back to sleep within a couple of minutes, so not that big a deal.  Woke as usual at 5.20, I fed her and snuggled with her until 6.15 (I have totally given up on thinking that before 6.30 is too early - I only complain if I have to get out of bed before 6!  ), fed, played, breakfast etc; down for first nap at 9.15 (usual time), took about 10 mins to get to sleep and I woke her at 9.50 - and she was then awake until she went to bed at 18.30...   She screamed for 1.5 hours when I tried to get her to sleep at lunchtime, at which point I got her up because there was clearly no point, and she didn't sleep in the buggy while we were out.  I have no idea what was wrong, and I am dreading tonight because she is going to be so OT, and she missed a feed because I forgot  and she didn't ask for it. 

M was a brat this morning when we had our friends over, took half an hour to go to sleep at lunchtime, and although she was quite good in the afternoon, she did a poo in her pants at my friend's house.  She has had an accident every day since we came home from our holiday (having had 2 in the whole time we were away) and I am so frustrated because I don't understand what's going wrong.

In addition, dh has gone away and taken the car.  The other car doesn't work because he left it parked at the airport for a week with the lights on and he hasn't replaced the battery yet.  My buggy has a flat tyre even though dh has tried to fix it twice, and I don't think I'm going to be able to go and see my friend tomorrow, which I have been looking forward to for 3 weeks.

Can I have a hug, please?
Cx

[hjrmom01]

    You can have all the hugs you need! (((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))  It's days like that when you want to crawl back into bed, go to sleep until you can start over fresh tomorrow.  I hope the rest of the night goes ok for you and you can get some rest. Tomorrow is a new day with a new beginning.....

[*Liz*]

Oh hugs ((((((Hugs)))))) Clare.

It really does sound like a bad day. Especially with 2 little ones you just need at least some of it to go right don't you?

Hope you manage to get some sleep. E might not do as badly as you imagine as she will be soooo tired she just needs the sleep. But these babies never do as we think, do they?

 
Tomorrow is another day (hopefully a better one!!)

I'm really hoping for a decent night tonight as we are away for the next 2 nights going to a friends wedding. I'm dreading it - travel cot and teething baby  . And they are more DHs friends than mine anyway.

I did a silly thing and put Jacob to bed early - but I figured that it was easier to check if the EWs were OT than UT. To extend A's I'll need to modify the whole routine, but to check it isn't OT I can just stick him in bed 15 mins early. But I'm worried it might be the light mornings and birds singing that is waking him. Doesn't make much sense though as he is sleeping fine when it is daylight for naps and to go to sleep in the first place. I have blackout blinds, and  blackout curtains, and the door is shut all night. Its dark enough but not pitch black. If it stays this bad I'm going to cardboard them up just to check it isn't that  . Can't really do that long term though as the window is at the front of the house.

Martina - is Tristan behaving?

[clazzat]

Good luck with the early night, Liz.  For what it's worth, I believe that they sleep differently during the day and that the light during the daytime is not as disruptive as the light early in the morning.  There's also the fact that by the time it gets to early morning they have been asleep for a long time (sometimes!  ) and therefore they are feeling more refreshed when they come into their lighter sleep.  Hope the wedding goes well - bet you J ends up in all the photos!

Thanks for the hugs.  Evening has been surprisingly peaceful, so I have chilled out a bit.

[~inbalance~]

Big (((HUGS))) Clare.  You are not a horrible mummy!  Everyone has limits, and sometimes you just have an off day.  Of course we're here to help you through it.  I think I have more off days than anyone!    Hopefully tomorrow will be a little brighter.

We just came back from our last cooking class.  I'm so sad it's over!  I really enjoyed being there, and the other moms were great.  Today we made quinoa with squash, zucchini, asparagus, and garlic, and hummus.  I have all the recipes, and I bought the chunky 10-12 month ones too, so I'll try and post them all tonight in the recipe swap.  I can't wait to make them all!!

Tristan's been doing well, he was very good at class despite having to do a really long A without a nap.  I don't care if he bumps his head here and there, I certainly don't follow him around trying to save him, but I do watch out for hard surfaces and corners.  I think DH is more worrisome than me!  I figure, he's a boy, better desensitize myself to bumps and bruises now!

I got a homeopathic remedy for teething I'm going to try, I'll let you know how it goes.

Well, we're off for a walk.  Be back later I'm sure!!  

[hjrmom01]

OH Martina I SO can't wait to check out the recipes!!!!!!!!!!!!  I hope to get a chance to read them tonight!!!!  Again, Clare....bug hugs my friend, I'm so sorry you are having to go through a bad day alone    I still think you are an amazing mom...I don't know know how you do it with 2...I have a hard time with one! (and of course DH!)  Liz, I hope you have fun at the wedding...make sure to take lots of pics of J being super handsome!!!  Gotta go get H!!!!

[~inbalance~]

Ok, so wiwo only took 15mins tonight instead of 30mins last night.  That's progress, right?  I hope that if I keep up at it, Tristan's sleep will improve as he gets the idea that he needs to go to sleep on his own (and hopefully stay asleep).  I feel optimistic, but then again so many times I've felt optimistic and yet things still go wrong.     If he starts responding to wiwo out though, I think it will be ready to drop the night feed...I don't know I'm torn.  I want to drop it so hopefully he learns to sleep through, but at the same time I'm worried because of the whole low weight thing.  Well, I guess if I cut out the night feed he'll hopefully start taking more during the day.  That's the theory, right?   

Anyways, now I'm rambling!  Back with recipes when I get the chance! 

[hjrmom01]

Great progress, Martina!!!  Way to go, Tristan....we knew you'd catch on fast!!!  I kinda feel the same way you do about the night feed. Now that I moved H to 3 bottles I have yet to see anywhere near the same amount of oz in 24 hours so if H wakes up in the night, I will automatically feed figuring it is hunger...that's what I did last night    If it is hunger and I don't feed, H won't sleep well and I doubt that will make him eat better during the day...will just make for a hungry OT baby!  We managed about 18 oz today...maybe 19 at most    But on the upside, H took some purees at dinner!    Not a lot, but at least took some for a minute.  I don't know why I bother, it's actually cleaner to do finger foods! 

So, funny story.  Sitting around with Dh today while H played on the floor and I started talking and wondered why he wasn't saying anything....here's the conversation: "Guess what honey?! Tristan is crawling now!  And he can pull up to standing and he's climbing all over everything. Martina said he bumped his head pretty good today and he's got quite the blue bruise on his forehead......  And Clare said she had a rough day with E and M. M's been having some accidents in her pants even though she did fine while on vacation and poor Clare is on her own with the two girls and E didn't take her nap this afternoon so she's afraid she's going to be up all night with her and she's just exhausted after having to deal with everything by herself."  Then Dh kinda goes "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?"  "what?"  DH, "who?" me, "Tristan and Martina and Clare and her two girls, Eloise and Milena."  DH, "is that someone from work that I don't know?"  Me,  sheepishly reply, "uh, hehe, nevermind"  TOTALLY FORGOT HE HAS NO CLUE WHO EVERYONE IS?!?!  I started talking to him and telling him all excitedly about Tristan crawling and standing like you all are my IRL friends!  Boy, I felt silly!!!

I hope everyone has a good night.  Sweet dreams and sleepy babies!!! 

[~inbalance~]

Lol Alyssa!     That IS a funny story!  Gosh, they need to hurry up and invent teleporters so we can be real life friends too! 

Well, here ya go ladies!  Let me know what you think!
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=151464.0
http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=151466.0

[Isabellasmummy]

Thanks ladies for your support,I do really worry about her mobility and weight and feel i have made her this way.. but I don't over feed her.


She is crawling only army style put only does to it when she really wants to, yes she can cruise along furniture and make steps to walk and run !! lol legs go so quick it's very funny.

she has always put on weight quickly, she has about 4oz maybe each meal, plus fruit and veg finger food but not lots.

She has about 17oz of formula per day an loads of water she loves water.

She is 79cm long which is 2.56 feet or 31.1 inches. so very tall

Alyssa- I do the same I talked about you all and my dh says do you mean your cyber friends lol Are you still doing the wake to sleep

Clare- Don't feel bad about having an off day, i get stressed with one child so you must be at the end of patience with 2, i think you do an incrediable job and can't be easy coping with 2.

Martina- Well done for Tristian settling better at night do you think it's the WI/WO

We had an ace night slept through thank goodness... I don't think i could keep functioning on 4 hours interupted sleep.  she did 12.5 hours last night

I go back to work tomorrow so am really down today- only doing 2 days in the office but I just don't want to miss anything with her.

Plus going to work for dh... boo that is going to be hard but he needs someone and he will be flexible.

xx