2-1 transition help with 1 year old

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Depends! Mine never did a catnap once we ditched it so we just dealt with ot and pushed on! Though only DD3 ever did less than 2 hour naps without my capping I guess!

[Shiv52]

I set nap time and bedtime and just went with it. If we had a disasterous nap I may have APed a CN in the car later but generally pushed through. Dd1 did 5 hours A 3 hour nap and 5 hours A. DD2 did same A but a 2/2.5 nap so their bedtimes matched.

[JennVanessa1083]

Wow thanks ladies! So pushing through seems to be the general approach haha!

Ok he did a 1.75 am nap which is great but then I did around a 20 minute CN and it ended up making the day was too long at 14 hours so I may have to push more for the one nap. He's at 4.5 taking a long nap but I'm wondering if I can just gradually push for a longer A so that the A to bed isn't ridiculously long?

I'm honestly nervous about EBT since he's not the baby to have 13 hour nights. If he takes an over 2 hour nap on a 4.5A then what A would be good before BT? 4.5? More? What if he wakes up crabby does it mean he should have slept longer?

Sorry! So many questions!

[JennVanessa1083]

I'm so sorry for replying again.

Just a quick question: 2.25-2.5 hrs in naps and less than 10 hours of night sleep is UT? I had this in the last two days where he has shorter nights but 2 NW where he's crying and agitated. He has had long days bc of me trying to fit a CN. In the morning he wakes up touchy probably from a short night. He's also waking up sooner and sooner after BT. I'm Trying to hold on to 2 naps but maybe I just need to give it up.

This is what has been happening:

WI 7:30 am
S 12-2ish
S 5:45ish for 20minutes
BT 8:30-9 pm

Perhaps too much A before BT or maybe too late of CN or too much day sleep 

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

I think trying to hold on to two naps is just going to lead to short nights and then built up ot from never getting a good restorative night or nap. Becomes an UT/OT loop at this point from not enough A time (or just A time arranged in a way that doesn't suit lo - ie he may need two bigger chunks not 3 smaller A times).

[JennVanessa1083]

Yea it's looking like it. But what if he doesn't sleep 2 hrs? Then do a CN? How do I know if he needs a two nap day?

In terms of 1 nap days, do I do the same A time to bed? Such as 4.5?

How does a feeding routine work with less A to give 3 meals and snacks and BF?

[Shiv52]

I just did set bed time regardless of nap length give or take 15 mins. Set nap too. If you stick to set A time then bedtime can get earlier and earlier. The nap will lengthen and become consistent once his body realises it's one nap and night sleep.

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok that makes sense. I was thinking something like:

WU 7:30 am
S 12-2 pm
BT 7 pm

DShas never done 5 hours A so is that too much of a jump right before bed?

[Shiv52]

What's the most A time he has done?

Do you think he'll do a 12.5 night ok?

[JennVanessa1083]

The most he's done is 4.75 in the am and was fine.

Honestly, he's only done 12.5 hrs nights a handful of times. He averages about 11 hr nights; 12 at most. Not sure if he would do more than a 12 hour night.

Should I push out the am nap?

[Shiv52]

I'd aim for 5 hours pre nap. If you think he needs it do a couple of days 4.75 but then I'd jump to 5 x

[JennVanessa1083]

Ok I can definitely work towards that. In the meantime...what would a good starting point on AnA before bed. I know you mentioned set BT but not sure where to start.

Eventually I would like a BT or 7:30-8 pm.

[JennVanessa1083]

Well I got a slightly UT nap on a4.5 A. He woke up at 48 minutes then I managed to get him back to sleep and He woke 45 minutes later. Could be bc he slept 11 hours not including NW. He's teething his canines  so he had 2 NW where we had to give him a second dose of medicine.

I'll try 4.75A tomorrow. As for the rest of the day, I'm going to throw in a 15-20 min CN and cross my fingers lol

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

Aftet a decent night you need a good long A time in the morning to make a decent nap possible so that he can push through until bed. I fear the catnap will just keep putting you back to the start un terms of him getting used to longer A times and giving him time to lengthen that one nap.

[JennVanessa1083]

That's true. Maybe I should have pushed to 4.75-5 hrs this am?

I'm thinking I may just set the nap and BT.