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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #210 on: September 17, 2016, 19:50:18 pm »
Ugh nightmare!! I'd say you're right it's teeth but OT.

What about a two nap catch up day tomorrow to see can you get on top of it a bit. Either long then a CN and later bedtime.  Or the other way round if he won't be too miserable waking after a short nap.  Could maybe time a car nap.

How's the self settling this weather?





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #211 on: September 18, 2016, 00:21:46 am »
Self settling is a mixed bag lol I'm trying to cut him some slack given the molars

Definitely doing a 2 nap day tomorrow since today was a complete sleep disaster. He barely napped since we were out and about. He screamed at bedtime and woke up 45 minutes later screaming again.

Whew! Preparing for another rough night  :-\
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #212 on: September 18, 2016, 06:57:25 am »
Ugh!!! Hope it goes ok. Let me know xx





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #213 on: September 19, 2016, 11:11:38 am »
Hi Shiv!

I hope all is well with you.

Whelp DS was up at 5 am after his diaper leaking  ::) I tried everything for 2 hrs until I accepted defeat.

Yesterday he did an almost 1.75 nap after about a 4.25 A. Then I tried for a CN around 4 hrs later and he totally rejected it. He ended up doing around a 6.25A to bed  :-\

Total if 9 hours if sleep...ugh!

Not sure what to do as I never had his early of a WU. I know it's a 2 nap day but how to stretch it without risking another short OT night.

Any suggestions?
Jennifer xx

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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #214 on: September 19, 2016, 11:48:50 am »
Oh he's a rascal. I did wonder would he refuse the CN.

With such an early start Id maybe do nap after 4 hours and CN later on. 

and hopefully get back to one nap tomorrow and try make things more set again.

Hugs xx maybe nap when he does! 😜





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #215 on: September 21, 2016, 16:17:46 pm »
Hi Shiv!

Thank you for the help. He ended up taking two naps stretching the day out to get a wake up of 7:30 am. He woke due to a diaper leak  ::)

I pushed him to one nap on a 5.25A then he only slept 1.5 bc of loud construction then did a 5.25 A to bed for 7:30. He definitely had an OT (4 NW) night waking up at 7:15 argh! I think his nap was OT bc he was pretty whiny for the rest of the day.

So I tried pushing to one nap today and well that didn't work so he's napping right now. Hoping for 2 naps to push the day out and get a 7:30-8 wake up tomorrow.

Update: of course at like a 4.25A he naps for 2.25 hours waking up at 2 pm! Bedtime is usually between 7:30-8 pm as I want to keep WU between 7:30-8 am. i wonder if 7:30-7:45 pm is ok given the shorter A before his nap. I don't want a UT night but I also don't want an OT one lol

Not sure if my A times are too long bc of the teething? He also has a throat infection smh. Rough week!

He's almost 16 months and I'm wondering what's typical in A times. Seems like it was starting to work out but now it's all gone awry  :-[

« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 17:58:25 pm by JennVanessa1083 »
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #216 on: September 21, 2016, 20:56:43 pm »
Id say 5 hours is normal enough for a LO who needs 1 nap.

Sounds like he was catching up today?

I think the issue is he fights the CN after a long nap so if you think he needs shorter A times then you'll really need to do short am nap, like 20-30  minutes then longer nap later on. And you'll need to be very consistent about waking him yk?





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #217 on: September 22, 2016, 00:05:06 am »
Ugh I'm not a fan of two nap days. I can try the short am/long pm route on days he needs catch up.

Yea he had a monster nap at a shorter A time which led to bedtime fighting and crying for around a half hour before falling asleep at 8 pm. Not sure if UT or OT but he ended with an A time of 6 hours yikes!

I'm thinking if it's a one nap day I'll do 5 hours tops and see if that helps then 5 hours after that.

Hopefully:

WU 7:30 am
S -12:30-2:30 (hopefully)
BT 7:30 pm
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #218 on: September 22, 2016, 11:50:00 am »
I don't think 2 nap days will work either.

That sounds like a good plan. Let me know how today goes xx





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #219 on: September 22, 2016, 12:14:14 pm »
Will for sure! He was up for more than 2 hours from around 2-4:30 am!!! It was absolute torture.

He was up at 8; sleeping a total of 9.5 hours. I'm assuming OT from the very long A to bed but maybe also the earlier monster nap? So confused.
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #220 on: September 23, 2016, 10:09:25 am »
Well he had tons of NW  ???

His sleep is deteriorating but he had an awesome nap today again. Could it be UT from the massive nap? Or maybe residual OT from the horrible night before? Or maybe it's just his teeth despite me medicating most of the night. 

This was today:

NW 11:18; 2:25-4:40 am; 7:09 (managed to get him back to sleep)
Total 9.5 hrs

WU 8:04 am
S 1:03-3:28 pm (A 4:59; fought sleep a little)
BT 8:33 pm (A 5:05; drifted easily; woke when I kissed him on the head)

NW 9:23; 11; 2am; 4 am;

Up at 6!!!!! Getting a total of 8.5 hours!!!

Should I just medicate all night long and adjust my easy? He has to be OT now. He's never slept this little and its Making me really upset.



« Last Edit: September 23, 2016, 10:55:59 am by JennVanessa1083 »
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #221 on: September 23, 2016, 16:53:39 pm »
Even with teeth that's a lot of NWs. I am beginning to wonder if you've a prop issue going on?? How are you resettling night wakings? Is there Independent sleep going on for the nap and bedtime?  Your EAS in general is super so I do wonder if he just isn't able to resettle when he comes into a light cycle of sleep.






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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #222 on: September 23, 2016, 17:29:12 pm »
Not sure I guess it's possible...with NW sometimes he resettles on his own and sometimes I nurse or cuddle. It's hard to do any form of ST with hominem so much pain.

The weird thing is that just a couple of days ago he was sleeping longer stretches. He got into a car accident this weekend with my husband where I wasn't there. He is fine physically just a few bruising. However, he had two days of bad naps and OT due to being at the hospital and having a rough night and then having another bad nap day the following day. Maybe bad OT?

Could it be separation anxiety?

The hospital and My ped checked him out and he was fine. The only other thing is that the 2.25-2.5 nap he had is causing issues with night time.

Maybe I'm just reaching in trying to explain this lol
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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #223 on: September 24, 2016, 18:54:46 pm »
Awh poor wee man. That must have been an awful experience for you all.

When you were having some success you were being very consistent with the routine. I think the two nap days knock things a lot for him.

I think I'd get back to a set routine. Do 5 then nap then set bedtime. I don't think swapping and changing helps him much in terms of getting caught up. What are your thought?





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Re: 2-1 transition help with 1 year old
« Reply #224 on: September 25, 2016, 13:33:05 pm »
Yea it was such a nerve wrecking situation!

I definitely think it's worth a try. I definitely think it's routine bc Friday we had a 2 nap day to help lengthen the day and catch up a bit. He slept 12 hours overnight with quick and fewer NW. Yesterday was a disaster one nap day bc we were out and about. He slept horribly due to OT and only got 7.5 hours of night sleep! Looking back at his records he only had 3 days of 11 hours of overall sleep. For him, he's best at around 13 hours of sleep. So it may be a mix of molars (one cheek is slightly swollen poor baby) and OT.

All that to say that 2 nap days help lengthen the day but it doesn't really help catch up on sleep bc the overall sleep ends up being 11 hours with a 14 hour day.

Jennifer xx