Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 3

[Mama2C]

Argh! Back to EW this morning! Was asleep at 7:30 last night and woke up at 5:30am this morning! Exhausted this morning and would have slept at 8 but had to wait until 9 (until we got back from DD's bus) so letting him sleep til 10...What is causing these EWs? Teeth? Is he still OT?? I have a rough time with these EWs! He has been doing them ever since these molar started pushing through - over a week ago!! Does it usually last this long?

[jackman]

Unfortunately yes to the teething causing the EWs and taking a very loooooong time to finish. We've been dealing with them for what seems like months and we only have one which means three more to go for us. So sorry to hear about the EW again this morning. Did you do a meds DF again? I would assume yes as it worked for you yesterday. Hope you have good naps today.

[spodnic]

Arrgh!! I'm back. Pushing DD an extra 20 mins for a first nap at 12.50 seems one step too far, so I'm stuck with 1hr naps for the time being it seems. Early BT seems to be working so far. Hope her morning WU time doesn't start slipping back, because then I'm back where I started. Doh!

[~Karen~]

We're sooooo done with two naps!  Things have been going fine with one nap days but a couple of days ago I gave him a second nap and what a mess that was!  Had to do two naps the day after as well due to ew and as soon as he had a decent night the night after, that was it, back on one nap and fine since.  Although only about an hour nap at my brothers today so 6pm bedtime. 

Hopefully he won't be up too early but seeing as my 3.5 year old went to sleep for the night at 5pm I imagine we'll (well dh as it's his turn!) be up quite early anyway!

[lulunut]

I have a new delema! I have been able to AP his sleep to 6:30/7am with 2 naps.  He had one day with Daddy (OS) so he did later am nap.  He has only ever done 1 hour and did 1 hour that day.  He got a hold of some of DD's chocolate close to pm nap time and was OS. BT wasn't until 7:30pm.  Then I got a 4am with wide awake LO until 5:45.  Then he slept until 6:30. 

Today was a day with Granny so OS again later am nap only 1 hour and complete pm nap refusal!  I tried for 2 hours!!  So BT at 7pm. I am expecting early wake again, URGH!  OT loop again!!!


My question is acctaully, now that he is sleeping later, or was, what is a good am nap time for a 7am?  And then pm nap time?

[Mama2C]

lulunut - I feel like I am in the same boat as you....! Sooo frustrating. I have been working on a short AM nap (30 mins) with 2nd nap 3hrs later but DS refuses a nap at that time and will only take a nap after at least 5hr A and then we have a 9pm BT...so I am actually thinking that I just have to bite the bullet and go with one nap, around 11:30 or 12 until 1:30 or 2 and BT by 6:30 or 7...and if he looks OT, have earlier and earlier BT...I remember when DD dropped her nap completely I just had to rely on early BT to help overcome OT...

SOOOO this morning I managed to get him to sleep until 6:15 and did a nap from 11:50-1:40...BT at 7 (I would have done BT earlier but DD needed some attention...dealing with school issues...). So he did two A times of about 5.5hrs...I am just going to stick with it for now and do some early BTs if he needs extra catch up on sleep...Or am I really asking for trouble!??!!

[lulunut]

Mama2c-I hear ya on the SOOO Frustrating!  It drives me nuts!  I got him out of it last time by cutting his am A time to 4 hours then 3 hours then 4 hours.  This worked so well.  It got rid of the 5am!  Until Easter, with one night out late and this week has been crazy! Now he wants 4 hours first 5 second and 4.5-5 third.  Urgh!  With EW as well!!  Besides, I am the only one who can get him down for pm nap!  So this doesn't work so well on days I work.

Tonight was 6:30 BT in car.  I got him in his night time diaper and PJ's without him even waking up!  So cute!

I am prepped for EW and possible NW!  I hope the plan works for you Mama2c!  Early BT for me tonight!!!

[Mama2C]

lulunut - I hope it works out well too! I just can't keep switching things up on him. Seems like he gets confused...He has been cutting molars and he had a NWing several days into the 1 nap switch and I assumed it was OT but maybe it was teeth...he really does so much better with 1 nap...and I think I got scared off it with the NWing... Don't you hate it when you anticipate EWs? DS seems fixated on 5:30 WUs...I have tried so many things and I really think he is just an early riser...my dad was always up before 6am so perhaps he inherited that!!

[~inbalance~]

Mind if I join you ladies?  We are in the 2-1 as well.    Well, we made the jump to 1 nap around 11mos and actually DS2 has been doing quite well with it, but he is getting OT and so I've been throwing in some 2 nap days.  He has seemed to need 2 naps more often lately.  If he does 1, it is often short, 1.5hrs or less.  But if he does 2 than he will nap better, 20mins in the morning and then 2hrs in the afternoon.  Thing is, he won't always take 2 (like today), or on other days we have activities in the morning so we just stick to one.

It hasn't been too painful of a transition though, luckily!  I remember it being much harder with DS1.  He is due for molars any time though so I'm sure that will ruin anything good we've got going.   

[Mama2C]

Hi Martina! Ooooh the molars threw us off track. We were doing 1 nap for a while and then one molar came and he needed 2 naps and then we tried 1 again and then more molars have come. I have recently gone back to 1 nap with early BT if needed. It is hard though. DD did the transition beautifully, pain-free! Not so lucky this time!

Last night we had a 1.75hr NW!!! After an hour of rubbing his back (ooooow my back!) I gave him tylenol and after about 20 mins he relaxed and fell asleep. So thinking the NW was more teething-related than OT...

Trying the noon nap again and we'll see how it all goes. I expect some early BTs for a while...

[spodnic]

Hi ladies

Mama2C - after a 30 min AM nap, I found my DD could only handle 2hrs45 A time. If I left it 3 hrs she took ages to fall asleep. Sorry that probably throws a spanner in the works for ya! Good luck with the teething.

[~inbalance~]

Yes, I expect F to need more 2 nap days while these molars are cutting.  They should be coming any day now, then again I've been thinking that for like a month.   

[Mama2C]

spodnic...oh no really? I really really really don't want to go back to 2 naps. I guess I'll see how the week plays out. Today he had a 2.5hr nap from 12-2:30 and BT at 7:30 (took him a while to fall asleep). I hope we don't have a NWing...!

[lulunut]

Mma2c-We have molars here too!  I too hate 2 nap days, especially with DD1. No time for me!!! But I enjoy the later wake time more I think!  We had 1 hour NW last night as well!  I expected him to wake again a few hours later but he went until 6am!!  I was impressed.  This was 12hours with 1 hour NW in the middle.

Martina-11mts you got 1 nap!  Good for you!  I was still on 3 naps at that time!!! LOL!  How old is your LO now?  I hear ya on the OS!  My LO refuses to go down for any sleep after excitement!  We have to do lots of down time before naps!

2 naps today.  10am with struggle!  1 hour.  3:30pm nap with struggle, Granny had to get him down.  BT was at 8:15.  I am hoping for later BT!!!!  And no NW!!!

[~inbalance~]

lulunut, he is 12mos now.  We do 1 nap probably about 5 days a week.  I have been doing more 2 nap days recently because he seems to need it.  Two weeks ago I think he was going through a GS and was sleeping well, and taking 1 2-2.5hr nap everyday!  Now it is often 1.5hrs.  So he needs some catch up days.  Though today he napped about 1hr 45mins which isn't bad.

I think it was a little early to jump to 1 nap, my DS1 wasn't on 1 nap properly until probably about 16mos!  But with a toddler at home as well, I kinda pushed him so that we could get out more, and he's been doing really well with it.

So he does 1 nap on the mornings that we have activities, but if I'm home in the mornings (which isn't often!) then I'll try for 2 if he'll take it.