Nws + EWs + short nights are back.What do I do with this kid????

[Grants]

Thank you Karen I will have a look on her posts.

Do you guys think he is too young to start the 1-0 ? I know the answer is no but given  the circumstances ? This Monday he had only 30 mins nap, accidentally as he was on the pushchair and he napped from 11:30 to 12. That was the day I managed to put him down at 7pm. He actually asked to go down at 7 for the first time in weeks. So on that day he had 30 mins nap and 7 hours A time before BT and only then he would feel really tired to go down

[Mom to M&M]

No I don't think he's too young. It's not the norm but some kids have dropped their naps by or before 2. I think Deb's kids did actually! Maybe he would do best for now on a 30-45 minute nap? So hard to say.

We are having a rough go lately too. For days now DS hasn't napped more than an hour and 15-20 minutes (he used to sleep 1.5-2 easily). Today only 45 minutes and that's after a bad night. Le sigh.

[EloysH]

I thouht my LO was dpoing the 1-0 at age 2, as it turns out it was the 2 year molars moving about, and after a month or so he went back to sleeping well.

[Grants]

Sorry about the hard time Karen. I wish Deb could give me some insight into the situation

Eloyse , M never really slept well. It's always something with him. This time is not teeth as he has just had his 4 incisors .

1.5 hour nap yesterday and 9.5 hours night. Not a bad total for him . But he was up at 5:20am this morning. ( I'm going to have to change the groclock again as 6:30 is not an option anymore. Dh has to sit with him Until sunshine comes on and 1 hour waiting in his room with him is not a option ) We are knackered ! He went down at 8 and up at 5:20. We have no life . Do I go back to 1 hour nap ? What do I do ?

[Grants]

On a positive note: No Nws last night I just don't get why I'm soooo tired as we didn't have a bad night??

[huby]

It often
Just catches up on you, I remember those nights well. Has he always EW as this will make a difference

[Grants]

Had M on the pushchair this morning, to go to de doctor, and he fell asleep on the way back at 10:15am. I transferred him to the cot and will let him sleep for as long as he like (as it is quite early) and will put him down at 8pm again , unless he shows any sign of wanting to go to bed earlier . I’m just soooooo tired of controlling/tweaking M’s  sleep and never ever get any results So its  a ‘whatever day' today

Sorry about the rant ladies.

[huby]

If hes always been an ew he may continue to do so whatever though Ive heard u can push it to more reasonable times. My friends lo is 2 and woke at five each morn now it's 6 or more likely 6.30. She gave up tweaking as hes always been an early riser n naps two hrs a day instead. It just depends on whether they've always ew or not sometimes x

[sianie]

Y'know, sometimes 'whatever' days can be a good thing! I've had lots of those recently! 

[Grants]

My friends lo is 2 and woke at five each morn now it's 6 or more likely 6.30. She gave up tweaking as hes always been an early riser n naps two hrs a day instead. It just depends on whether they've always ew or not sometimes x

The problem is M's A times Huby. He needs long A times before BT so if he has long naps our BT is going to end up 9:30 or 10pm. I can't cope with late BTs . I'd rather cut his nap altogether instead of having late BTs.BTW he has always been a early riser since birth.

Ladies, he woke up at 11:30am from his nap today (1.15 hours nap). I wanted to put him down at 7pm so I entered his room at 6:45pm thinking he would be asleep by 7pm. It took him 30 mins to fall asleep( No drama this time.He just wasn't tired enough) This kid is never tired  8 hours A time with only 1.15 nap and he still took 30 mins to fall asleep.

[Grants]

Oh Huby I meant to ask, how is your lo doing these days? Is she sleeping better?

[babybarr]

Grants do you know after reading your post on Wendy's thread I wonder if you should just *try* the no nap - we did probably at a similar age and this is what happened - great night sleeping for about a week and then it just fell apart again.  It's really only now with no nap and an older child that things have improved.

Given he typically is a good napper (unlike O) perhaps try the nap no nap scenario unless you are going to be able to have him in bed at say 5.30pm?

[Tweakster]

I agree.  Honestly I don't think it's that M isn't tired, I really think he's likely overtired but just doesn't know how to settle himself.  He's sleep totals are exceedingly low for a kid his age.  Not to say that he can't be low sleep needs but since you also see behavioral issues, I do believe that's related to his sleep.  Kids just need a lot of sleep - especially those with busy days ala daycare.

What does your day look like right now? Can you post awake, nap and then asleep by - sorry if it's elsewhere in the thread :-)

I think you could try a no nap day just to see how far he gets without one.  For F it's around 10 hrs and then his body just gives out and he crashes.  So as you can see the issue with that, unless he's magically going to do 14 hrs at night, we're stuck with a nap.

[Mom to M&M]

I'm not sure I'd go to no nap yet. You haven't really tried less than a one hour nap right? Maybe go for 30-45 minutes and see if that gets you a reasonable BT and decent night?

[Grants]

Hi ladies , thank you for posting just to make it clear. I wouldn't like to rush with 1-0 as I do think he is a bit young for that+ he is not resisting the nap yet. But it bothers me that he has such short nights+EWs+NWs and won't go down early at BT either! That's why I wondered about cutting the nap, hoping he would have decent nights and decent BT time and no Nws of course. Lol

He never liked much sleep since he was a baby TBH. He was super alert when he was a newborn and wouldn't sleep much. Thanks to BW I managed to 'teach' him how to nap but I have to accept that this is his nature. I agree with you ,Wendy, about kids needing sleep but M is def on the bottom of the scale , unfortunately

Its hard to talk about his routine ATM as we haven't been back on track properly since last set of teeth. I would say he wakes up at around 5:20am naps for 1 -1.5 hours at around 12:30pm and goes to bed at 8pm.
Let's see what you girls think.

Laura, was O fighting/ refusing his nap when you tried a no nap approach?