Nws + EWs + short nights are back.What do I do with this kid????

[Grants]

Awake at 5:10am. 9.25 hours night. I think we are going to have to settle for short nights on special occasions day and on nursery days as he doesn't tack when he has normal / late BT times.

[huby]

My friends son wakes at 5.30 no matter what, doesn't tack on sleep either and takes an earlier nap than most but still arms 12 ish for two hrs. She settles for a long nap a shorter night as he wKes 5.30am no matter what tweaking she does. Early risers are perhaps just early risers....and bright little children it seems x

[Grants]

Hi ladies!

Laura, Sianie, Wendy, Huby, Karen, Eloysh and Koe. I would like to thank you for all your guidance, support and patience. 

We are doing much better these days. The insight about M’s needs of long wind down was a turning point! He def needs help switching off much more than I ever imagined. Our normal 45mins was useless . It’s more like a 1.5 hours in a normal day and perhaps even longer on busy days. This has made such a difference in our nights with Nws and BT resistance. I’m also offering him a very early nap (10am) on the days he is with me at home and super early BT ( 6:30pm) after 6.5 - 7 hours A time and long wind down.  Last Thursday he had 13 hours of total sleep!!!!  Unfortunately he still EWs every morning but we have accepted it, now that he is getting quality sleep. He doesn’t have good total sleep on nursery days as he finds it hard to switch off at BT (having the occasional NW) and never sleeps longer in the mornings but we catch up with sleep on non-nursery days. Reading about his traits on RYSC has been a blessing as well.  

Anyway, I’m just posting to thank you ladies for holding my hand! You are a bunch of special ladies!!     

[babybarr]

I am*so* happy for you, you deserve it.

  Now don't disappear on us will you?!

[Grants]

Thanks Laura Of course I won’t disappear , I would not leave my BW sisters!  

He is still not a great sleeper, yk. But the fact that I get him more and *accept* his sleep traits has helped immensely. The EWs (everyday) and NWs (occasionally)  are not completely gone but I think the *acceptance * and *understanding* were key factors for stopping me getting so frustrated with him and the whole situation. 

[sianie]

He is still not a great sleeper, yk. But the fact that I get him more and *accept* his sleep traits has helped immensely. The EWs (everyday) and NWs (occasionally)  are not completely gone but I think the *acceptance * and *understanding* were key factors for stopping me getting so frustrated with him and the whole situation.

This is so true & I'm glad you've got to this point as it will make things a lot easier to deal with & accept!

So glad things are a bit better!

[koe2moe]

So sso happy for you that you are on to something good!!  You beat us.  We reached that point when DS was almost 24mo!  It's really good to know why so that you can accept and deal with it, instead of constantly guessing and wondering!  Wooohoooooooo  he will soon grow to a point that he can handle the stimulation better and then can sleep even better even on nursery days.  Yay!!

[Mom to M&M]

Awesome news!

[Grants]

Thank you ladies! 

[huby]

Xx good luck with everything xx

[Grants]

I spoke too soon we had the worse night ever last night M was up from 11pm to 2:45am.  And awake at 5:10am . 6 hours 40 mins night!  we never had such a short night before !  What do I do today with his nap ? He is at nursery but he won't nap earlier there . I have already asked. Carer tried and he refuses as he knows the other children are playing.

Please I need a reply before dropping him off this morning.

At nursery he has 1.5 hour nap (12 to 1:30 pm). Anymore will result in very late BT . I'm confused as we never ever had such a short night  

[Grants]

Sorry, I meant NW from 11pm to 1:45am. So it was 7.40 hours night. It is still bad but not as bad. We had a 7.30 hours night once when we were pushing him hard to stop EWs and shift his day forward. You guys probably can remember it as it is somewhere in this thread.

Another  question: Is it possible that children this age have nightmares? I thought he was a bit too young for that. But last night he didn’t want to stay in the cot. As soon as DH entered the room he wanted out of the cot at all costs, which is very unusual for him as he doesn't really like to be picked up when having NWs?? He was really upset, crying for ages. I also had to pick him up then brought him to our room as he was freaking out in his room. Then he didn’t even want to lie down on our bed. He only wanted to lie on my chest. In the end DH took him to his room and it took ages for him to fall asleep again as he was crying and very upset . DH tried for about 30 mins then I swapped positions with DH and it took another 15 mins for M to fall asleep.

So what do you guys think? Was it a nightmare?

[Grants]

It's me again. I asked the carer to follow the normal routine today but if she thinks he wants to nap earlier she can put him down earlier and let him sleep longer. He was so happy this morning!!! He even gave the carer a big and long hug when I dropped him off. I don't know how  he can be so happy after such a horrible night

[sianie]

{{Hugs}}, sorry for the tough night!

Only just catching up with my posts so this is probably too late for you I'm afraid!

What you have described does possibly sound like a nightmare, DD behaves in a similar way when she gets them.

I would probably have aimed for an earlier nap after the short night but FX he manages to catch-up a little today!

[Mom to M&M]

Hugs Grants. ITA with Sian. Hope he has a good nap today and sleep tonight!