Support for Dropping the Nap age 2-3 Part 4!

[koe2moe]

Sabs, if you haven't tried late bt, it's perhaps worth trying.  Or do it when she got a late longer nap. 

We got more than 11 last night and no NWs ( I got new earplugs from hardware store, man, they are the best).  I have a new theory for those who care to hear hehe.  DS started having decent sleep at 23 months.  7-7 with 2h nap at 12:15-12:30.  Then it shifted later to 8-8, 9-9 or 9:30 even! With the same nap time.  It's like his preference just shifted from 5h first A, till 3h!!!  That was about 2-3months ago.  Seems like after this massive GS, his body is shifting towards 7wu again!  Lucky that our time is flexible, so we are going to shift his day again.  7:30 bt.  We are doing a late nap at 1, but I still hear him babbling now. 

More hugs to you all

[Khalam's Mama]

Maybe you need to force a no nap day to force a good night sleep sabs. That is that helped us get over the 2 to 1 transition. Maybe she doesn't need a nap every day but because of the poor nights and ew she can't get there. I have to take k out somewhere to avoid naps and he does way better than at home. Worth a try if no luck with the early bt.

[Tweakster]

I agree - we throw in a no nap day quite often on weekends because it does extend his night.  And yes we even do it from an EW - the behaviour kind of sucks but we just keep him busy through it.  If he nods in the car it's not really restorative but takes the edge off the worst of meltdowns.

[consmummy]

I'd go with what the others said, trying a no nap day is worth a shot.

Today appears to be a no nap day, he's up there now shouting away. I didn't think he'd nap because while he seemed tired he slept in till 8am, so 12.5hr night. It's definitely going to be a case of taking each day as it comes here.

[scucci1979]

I totally get what you are saying but it very difficult to keep her up as Alyssa naps from 12-2pm. I am stuck inside during that time. Of course, that is the time hubby takes a nap too.   

[KathG]

Hi there

What is the earliest age known for a toddler to drop his day nap?
My DS is 23,5 months old.  
He sleeps on average 10 - 10.5 hours a night.
He sleeps on average 1h30 in the day.  
Good day's total sleep is 12 hours, normal day is 11.5 hours in total.   Not a lot heh?

Awake time from wake-up to day nap is normally 5.5 - 6 hours.

In the last week he's been struggling with and fighting the day nap.  
Should I be putting him down later now 6.5 hours awake time and then waking him up after 1 hour?

I like him to bed in bed by 7pm, to fall asleep by 7:30 latest so that DH and I can have time to cook, catch up etc. The adult time that all parents should try get :-)

Hope this is the right thread to post this on.

Thanks

[scucci1979]

I wish I could help you but I am so lost with this transition.  You could try to move out his nap 15min later and cut it to 1hr and 15min. He should still be tired for his usual bt.

So ladies, she was so miserable at 11am. Meltdown after meltdown. I kept explaining to her that she was tired but she said "no."  I asked her if she wanted to go for a nap and she said "no nap," with an angry voice. Sigh. I feel I am getting beaten up by this girl. Seriously, how can she be so moody. I feel so bad b/c I try to be so patient with her but lately, I have been yelling at her. I think we need a break from each other.

She fell asleep on the sofa at 12:30pm. I am hoping she will sleep until 2pm.  If she wakes up and doesn't see me on the other sofa, she is going to have a fit. Grrr... I can't win.

[koe2moe]

Hi kath, welcome to the thread!  We are all a bit lost with this transition but we will support each other.  If you think he is UT and hence fighting the nap, should try extending A time a bit to see.  You never know until you try.

Sabs, what if you just ignore her meltdowns, what would she do?  I think when she is upset about something, she is too young to be able to cope otherwise.  You just have to ride it.   So more hugs..

We got 1h45 nap at 1:10 PD but he didn't fall asleep until 1:30.  So A time was 6h40!!!  So I chickened out to do early bt and put him down at 8:40 and he was quite happy to go down, he is still babbling away now.  But is cough is almost gone!!  I am totally prepared for EW... 

[Khalam's Mama]

Not sure if welcome is the right word Kath but you do seem in the right place. K was doing 1.5hr nap and 10.5hr night at 23mo. It is on the low side. I know Wendy doesn't get more out of Finn either do you Wendy? We were in bed at 8 and asleep by 8.35 after a 1hr40 nap. Would have been 1hr 30 but dh doesn't appreciate the significance of 10 extra mins. Hope we make 7am. Sabs if dh is home napping can't you take her out and leave a with him?

[scucci1979]

I do try to ignore her meltdowns and when I do, she just follows me. sigh

I could go out while hubby stays home with Alyssa but her nap is not consistent in length. I always have to extend.

I had to wake her up at 2pm and started wd at 6pm. Brought her to her bed at 8pm, sang some songs and left at 8:20pm.  Fx for a decent wu time tomorrow.

good luck ladies.

[KathG]

Hi mums, thanks for your replies.

What I am alerted by is, "We are all a bit lost with this transition". 
What is the transition? 
If you are meaning, transitioning to no day naps, surely 23 months is way to young for stopping day naps? or not? 

Also, I never wake my DS up after any sleep as I feel he is always on the low side of sleep so always hope to hit the 12 hour total sleep mark.   
But I read on this forums that many mums are waking their kids up after a certain amount of day-nap time.
It just wouldnt feel right for me, unless he is sleeping til 3pm in the afternoon and then I wouldnt want him to stay aake til 9pm.
Yest, he slept from 12:30 - 13:45. 1hr45.  He only fell asleep at 20:45!  Way too late for our night routine at home. Seems he likes long A times.

OTHER GENERAL QUESTION: when I read other mum's posts, many don't have a ticker (I dont either) saying how old their DS is. So, if I want to compare notes (age with age), I can't if they refer to their DS without mentioning their age.  any tips for me on how to use/understand the forum better then?

[Khalam's Mama]

The transition is not cutting straight to 0 nap but slowly moving from 1 to 0. Most mums do this by cutting the length of nap but it can be months from a long nap to no nap. Or some do it but having no nap days overworked few days and naps in between. I also hate waking my boys. I find with k if i put him down earlier he Will wake himself otherwise he may sleep 2 or 2.5hrs then want to be up late. Would your lo sleep Less in the buggy? if there is no ticket or date of birth in the poster's signiture it is hard to compare without asking the age. We were up after 10.2hrs this morning. I Will try to do a 45min nap before playgroup or we Will get a meltdown there

[KathG]

ok, so I am at the start of this transition is seems. Wow, didnt know it came so early!!! Thought it was at 3 years that they stopped their naps.   will keep checking this forum to see what mums are doing.

Tx

[Khalam's Mama]

It varies alot. I think low sleep needs lo usually drop earlier. When did you switch to 1 nap? We did at 14m. Some do at 18mo.

[KathG]

I think DS was also 14 months.  I should accept by now he's a low sleep needer!!! but I've always fought it as less sleep means less time for mum's work. :-).