Support for dropping the nap part 11

[Aishi]

She doesnt do longer naps anymore but if she does Sshehe won't nap longer than 1.5h then needs 6 h to BT which is ok if she does an early nap 5h after wu otherwise its a 14h day and she does a short night again

[jessmum46]

You'll have to cap then if she takes a nap around 1/1.30 - say 45 mins/1h

[rachsk8]

Yeah we kept naps to 46-60mins at the beginning and it wouldn't effect ONS too much. Have you tried a nap every 2 days?

[Aishi]

Well she did nap 11.30-1.30. Longer than I expected but I guess she needed. Any thoughts what time I should do bt?

[Aishi]

Oh dear I thought the whole point of a catch up nap was that it was to make up for lost sleep so bt should have been same ish-7 pm. It's 8.05 and I can still hear her. That's over a 14h day.

Does this mean she's ready for nap to just go? Could even the cat nap just be making day too long so she's getting more ot rather than just getting rid of nap ct would?

[jessmum46]

She's somewhere in the 1-0 for sure.  You can try NNDs and see how it goes - you'll soon see if she's not coping. 

[Aishi]

Yes think you're right Katherine. Was really hoping this was just dev stuff.

But nights can't get worse right? So I may as well try nnds and see what happens! She fell asleep at 8.30

Wish me luck!

[jessmum46]

Good luck hun x

[PineapplePrincess]

Aishi, I would try nnds then. If your day gets longer than 14 hours then nap is definitely causing OT and less sleep overall. This is where we are at right now. A few days ago he was waking at 7:15, napping at 1:45-2:30 and taking forever to go to bed at night. Some nights he was up past 10.

We are on day 4 of nnd and he is holding up ok. Last night he did 8:00-7:30 but the previous night he only slept 8:10-6:53. If we can keep our nights about 11-11.5 hours then I think sticking with nnd is the way to go. I put him in his bed about 8:10 tonight and he was out by 8:15.

[Aishi]

Ugh she did 8.30-5.45 That's 11.5h TS with the nap but would you do a nnd (6.30 BT) on such a rubbish night?

[jessmum46]

Do you ever try to resettle in the mornings? Not sure if you've had success with that.  What time do you get her up and out of bed?

To be honest this is where I'd just stick to a plan, any plan, whatever you are comfortable with, but stick to it regardless of night length, WU etc.  You can borrow ours if you want to WU whenever but not out of room until 6.30am earliest, try to resettle any EWs, quiet time around lunchtime, short CN around 3/3.30pm if struggling, BT 6.30pm.  Expect to get some grumpy behaviour and some NWs for a while though......doing this we got an average of just over 12h sleep in 24h.  My guess would be if you try if for a week or so and you're getting significantly less sleep than that, then she's not totally ready for all NNDs yet (given historically she's needed more sleep than J). 

What do you think?  Maybe you could even try BT earlier if she needs more than the 12h?

[Aishi]

I do try to resettle but it hasnt worked. I get her out of cot at 7 regardless of wu.

It seems no matter how I space out naps, cn, nnds she's not getting enough sleep so perhaps it is time to stick to something regaress of wu and night length like u said.

I think I'll go for nnds and set bt at 6.30 and see how she goes. It makes for a long day today but surely she will crash from ot at some point. Wdyt?

[jessmum46]

I agree hun, bear in mind it may be a few days before the crash happens so stick with it.  Hugs for this transition, don't think there's an easy or right way through for anyone xx

[Aishi]

Yup give it some time and stick with it. My new mantra

[Aishi]

Ok new plan

She was a bear yesterday and i couldn't face a nnd so I ended up doing this

Wu 5.45
Nap 12.45-1.30 capped
Bt 6.40 (pd 6.25)

Anyway besides one early nw she woke at 7 am!! Woo woo (OTT but ds woke at 7 tooo for a change!)

So I think that I'll do same today if she naps:

Wu 7
Nap 2-2.45
Bt 7.30/7.45

And if she doesn't nap then I'll stick to 6.30 BT. Really hope this routine suits her!