Support for dropping the nap part 11

[*Becky*]

we're ticking along here...seem to have gone from a 1 hour nap everyday to more like 3-4 times a week. She gets v tired though, I don't notice it so much in the day as she is pretty spirited but the next morning I do. I also find it hard to work out exactly how much sleep she is getting as she has a gro-clock and she is so good about waiting for the sunshine, we rarely hear her until 7am. We are sticking with the 6.30pm BT on a no nap day and a 7-7.15pm on a nap day.

[Aishi]

Dd is having a weird night. She's waking every 2h or so and singing. She doesn't need me tho. Has anyone else had this during 1-0?

I know she's not ot as she usually has crying nws when ot. Its very odd

[Aishi]

Dd woke at 5 today. She's got a cough and a cold. I *think*,she's gone back to sleep but if not what time should I give her a nap and for how long?

She's not had a nap in about a week cos she's been doing 12/12.5h nights and I've just set BT at 6.30

[jessmum46]

Sorry didn't see this Aishi - what did you decide?

[Aishi]

Its ok hon. She went back to sleep from 6-7.30. She's poorly tho poor mite she's resting in my bed now so may want ebt tho :-/

ETA she's fallen asleep in my bed. Should I let her nap 3-3.30 and do 7/7.30 bt?

[Mattsmummy]

If she is unwell, she will likely need the nap and I'd go for a 7/730 bt like you suggested. Hope she is feeling better after a rest...

We had an awful night last night.  Bt was 8pm after an hour nap, woke up at 1230 and came into our bed. I put him back about 1am.  He then came back in about 5ish and tossed and turned until about 630 when I'd had enough and got up...

He will be tired today I think...not sure about nap and bedtime....

[Aishi]

Thanks MM she wok herself at 3.15 thanks to noisy ds. Think I'll just pd normal BT at 6,30 and leave it up to her when she sleeps 

[rachsk8]

Aishi - I still haven't worked out DS's sleep needs when he's not well... we had almost identical day to you yesterday!  We had a WU of 6.15am and a 1.25hr nap (he needed it, was coughing in his sleep and so it was not the best sleep ever) waking at 3.15pm but was still tired and yawning and bit miserable all afternoon/evening.  I went with a slightly early BT of 6.15pm as I didn't see the point of keeping him up any longer - he was asleep by 6.30pm, then we had a NW at 3am for about 1hr - could have been him feeling feverish, maybe too much of an early BT, who knows!  Gave some paracetamol and he eventually went back to sleep and was up at 6.45am.  Sleep needs when sick are tricky IMO.  :-/  Don't know what to do today, guess I will see how it unfolds.  I'd rather he had too much sleep than not enough though I guess, so if he doesn't nap I will def keep to a earlier BT as in the past he often does need more sleep when unwell.

[Aishi]

I know it can be hard to get it right when they're poorly. She only napped 15 min cos ds and dn woke her she was asleep by 7 so hopefully not too late for her.

Hope your lo feels better soon. I always find coughing is a bitch for keeping them awake! Have you tried giving him a spoonful of honey before BT. I did that today. I find it soothes them and coughing isn't as bad after having it...

[Mattsmummy]

We have a homeopathic Honey based cough syrup that works wonders with M when he's got a cough/cold.

We have been having some tough days lately.  Nighttime sleep has been anywhere from 9.5 ( ) to 11.5 hours, NW, EW and some terrible tantrums/meltdowns in the morning and late in the evening.

He just turned 3 last week so I'm not sure how much is sleep related and  how much is developmental...the tantrums are bad though...not like I've seen before from him... 

[trimbler]

Hello,
Just thought I'd join you as 1-0 is kind of starting for us but I think will take some time, anyone here have a LO still napping at 4? We were on:

7am Up
2pm Nap (aiming for 45mins, sometimes took that long to settle, chatting and playing)
8pm BT

But since we moved the monitor into our room for new DD, we have no idea what DS is doing during nap time or when he gets to sleep at night! So we're doing (shifted for summer):

7:30 Up
2:30-3:30 Nap time
8:30 BT

This is with a gro clock, but the idea is to get him up after night/nap at the same time even if it means waking him. I'm quite sure he doesn't sleep all that time but hoping that he will self regulate and play quietly or sleep as necessary. Can't evaluate at the moment as we've had travelling, a late wedding, some days where naps aren't possible and nights where he's being woken by DD's crying, so we're adjusting the above to give him more time to catch up! No nap days we aim for a 11.5-12h day, this is where we're out or DS is at a party (very few of his friends are still napping!), he manages ok but does get very tired. At least he knows when he's tired and will sometimes tell us he needs an early night! It's often a different story at bedtime but at least we can remind him what he told us earlier in the day!

[PineapplePrincess]

Hey everyone! We have had an EWU (last Thursday)  and last night an hour long happy NW. Those who mentioned singing for an hour in the MOTN it's probably a happy NW like ours. If he was OT he'd be crying in his sleep. Instead he wakes up singing Wheels on the Bus for an hour then goes back to sleep. He woke at 5:30 today and went back to sleep between 6:30 and 7:30. I really think I need to give him 13 hours awake whether he naps or not. On Friday he slept for 30 min in the car (I woke). He was up since 7:30 then went to bed at 9, so 13 hours awake time that day too. I need to remember that if he wakes up at 7, then bed is 8. If he wakes up at 7:30, then bed is 8:30, otherwise when I put down a tad bit early we get an EWU or long happy NW.

[Aishi]

I've been really lucky with this transition. Once I stopped chopping and changing her routine and dropped the nap ct she seems to have got over the 1-0 very quickly (about a month) BT is set at 6.30/ 6.45 and wu is anywhere between 6.30/7. She's sttn and averaging about 12.25 ons. Can't complain about that! Just hope I haven't jinxed myself!

[TB9]

Hi everyone!

DD2 is 17mo, and we are really starting to have sleep troubles, so here I am because at this point I cant really cap her nap any more than I already am...

I have been capping her nap at 45min but with the 18 month sleep regression she has been having 1.5hr nws with a 45min nap.  Yesterday she only took a 30min nap, and still had a 13hr day    The same thing happened with dd1 right around 18mo, she went back to napping more reliably after the regression was done, but still needed no nap days.  So here we are with dd2   It took about 1yr to get dd1 through the transition...hoping I can get dd2 through it quicker, I would much rather have no nap days than short naps and long days!

[trinity33]

Hi,

We've started the process of dropping the nap but think we are getting into a bit of a mess. Ds was 3 last week. He's always been pretty Lsn. For the last 3-4 months we've been capping the nap at 30 mins. At nursery this is around 1.-1.30 at the weekends it's often in the car on the way home from a play date so anywhere between 3-4.30. On the 30 min nap we were getting more sttn bt 8pm wu between 6-6.30 sometimes a little later which is a really good result for ds. After 2 years of 5am wus!!

Anyway dropping the nap seems to be leading to to with more nw and ew - 5am today!
Nursery are really keen to drop the nap as he takes forever to go down for the nap but they can't do it later due to all the other kids being up. He's never been very good at tacking on sleep just wakes earlier. if he gets 10.5 solid sleep then he's normally ok11 hours is a long night for us. Under 10 and it's grump city. Can feel us heading into ot/ut loops.

Any suggestions on how to play it very much appreciated! :-)