Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4

[dijjibob]

We have been trying out one nap days first day 5 hour A then two hour nap then 5 Hour A bedtime with twelve hour night yeh. yesterday had to be a two nap as had to go to grandparents and no way to keep her awake on journey. Today she woke at 5.20 for about 15 minutes just rolling around then back to sleep until 7.15. I thought great for one nap day but she fell asleep at lunch 4.45 A time and have just had 1 hour 40, early night tonight will hopefully correct lack of sleep but do you think wa am UH or OT nap, she was obviously ready for nap so maybe more OT.

[Spleenie]

Thankyou Kara 

I just thought that the 2hr NW were a sign of UT, so confusing!

She woke at 8.30am this morning, thought i would let her wake when she was ready due to the long NW. She had a nap at 12.45 - 2.15 and then a bedtime of 7.45 .... just had a little cry from her 1 hr after bedtime so will see how the night goes x x x

[clairebear79]

Agree with Kara hun.  She's only just transitioned recently hasn't she?  1hr is pretty short for her age.  Someone did also mention on a thread I was on the other day that most LO's wake up 4hrs after BT - I never knew that but may explain the 12.45wu.  She may have stayed awake b/c she is so OT she can't resettle IYSWIM???

Sounds like today went a little better.  Hope you have a good night.

dijjibob - hard to say - but think when we first started with 1 nap days a 1h 40nap was usually OT.  As was anything under 2hrs really!  The early morning wakening may well be a sign that OT is creeping in & I'm afraid its pretty unavoidable during this transition.x

[ZacsMumme]

Your right Claire, they stir during the night every 3-4 hours, these are the times they are vulnerable to pain NW, Ut/OT NW and needing props to resettle if they stir and are used to Irving cuddled etc to sleep. the cry outs are also an OT sign...confusing right!?

I agree with Kara too Hun, if she has just transitioned try to let her nap as long as she likes if you can, a good 2 hrs should give her a chance of not being OT by BT.

[Spleenie]

Thanks for replies! We had a NW at midnight for 2.5 hours, crying, then wanting to play! Then she cried out at 6am x x x

[amerrim]

Hi all. I've been reading the thread and you guys have some really great advice so I was hoping to jump in with our 2:1 problems. Our 17.5 mo DD slept great when we started PU/PD at 6 mo all the way until now. Her schedule went all wonky at Christmas so when we got home we tried to put her on 1 nap instead as she was starting to refuse 2 naps. We tried for 2 weeks consistently and now we don't know which way is up. Our DD has started waking an hour after we put her to bed and she won't let us leave the room, a bit of SA? She'll be awake in her crib for almost 2 hours while we sit in her room and cries if we try to leave. Lately she'll have 4-5 NW's. She's also starting EW at 4:30, so she is getting almost no sleep. She got sick last week so we went back to 2 naps, but it isn't working well. Do we go back to 1 nap and throw in an occasional second nap to help with OT? She is turning into a totally different person because she is so OT. She used to sleep 7:30-7:30 with no NW or resettled quickly after we put the blankets back on.

Her 1 nap EASY that we tried for
7:10 wake
11:30-1:30 (ideally wanted 12-2)
7:30 BT

Tried WI/WO but I read somewhere that is doesn't work for SA, should we keep trying? My DH and I are exhausted after a month of sleeping on her floor or chair, we desperately need to get this sorted.

[Spleenie]

Urgh! Hope everyones well 

Katelyn is now waking at 6.30am, this isnt a problem as quite a few of you said that her night sleep would decrease. I'm just finding the new routine really difficult, especially when DD goes to nursery.

Any ideas of how her EASY should go with this earlier WU time? Thanking you x x x

[Jem88]

Hi My LO is 1 4 days

We've currently got a 30min AM nap and a good 2hr PM nap but i can't get her to go down for a AM nap earlier than 3hr 45mins A time, and she's then needing a 3hr 50min A time before the PM nap to sleep for 2hrs. So our days are getting longer than 12 hours.

We've been playing around and trying to get a good PM nap longer than 1.5hr and have managed that for the past 2 days. Lastnight we only had 2 NWs which was great as we normally have 4-5 NWs. But today she totally refused to go down for her AM nap, i tried a few times and she finally fell asleep after 4hr 10min A time. She was awake for the day at 7.25am and fell asleep at 11.35am. I'm now not sure what to do, Do i wake her after 30mins like normal or do i let her sleep and hope she has a 2hr nap and then EBT. x

[susaninlondon]

Jem,
I am no expert but from what I have read here it sounds like your LO is nearly ready to ditch that AM nap..once they can stay up to 1130 if you can get a 2hr nap an then EBT soon after 6pm then I think its better for them, rather than waking from this late AM nap and trying for a PM......will make a very late BT

Good luckx

[Jem88]

Thanks I didn't wake her after 30mins and she's currently been sleeping for 1hr 45mins, she did stir and make a little noise at the 1hr 25min mark but didn't wake. I'm thinking if she can get to the 2hr mark that's great only 15mins to go. I'm hoping she'll sleep a little longer than 2hrs but 2hr's is a great start as i really thought she'd wake after an hour. x

[Jem88]

My LO can't do more than 4hr 5-10mins but if i try and do a short 30mins AM and a long 2-2.5hr PM we have longer days than 12hr. I tried a long 1 nap today and she did a 2hr nap but woke up on the 2hr mark. Today has been:

7th feb.
7.25am  - up.
11.35am - nap. A time 4hr 10mins.
1.35pm  -  up. 2hr.
5.45pm - bed. A time 4hr 5mins.

She was getting grumpy and eye rubbing by 5.00pm so i did bath and bed. Whatever time she goes to bed she's up 11.5-12hr later so i'm guessing she'll be up around 5.30-6am (with maybe a few NWs too) in the morning and i don't think she'll stay up till 11.30am for the 1 long nap. x

[susaninlondon]

Jem,
she just might surprise you with a long sleep, my guy has been doing some long nights during this 2-1, previously 11.5 hrs was fab!
Have a good night
x

[Jem88]

She slept 2 hours exactly, i then had her in bed for 5.45pm she was yawning and eye rubbing like mad at 4.30pm. She then woke every 20-30mins so she ended up in our bed at 8.00pm then was awake messing around from 12.00pm - 1.20am - disaster! lol. She defo still needs the 30min AM nap even tho we'll have a few long days for a while. x

[trimbler]

Hi all,
New to this thread, having hung out on the babies 2-1 one for the last 6 months or so! On the brink of introducing 1 nap days, which I hope to start trying next week when we're both off work and at home, otherwise he's at the childminder's 3 days a week, where he'll have to stick with 2 nap days until he can manage a little longer As and hopefully after the clock change so I can hopefully get him to start his days a bit later...

Jem88 - oh dear, sorry to hear about that, hope you manage to catch up on sleep yourselves! Have you tried cutting the am nap to under 30mins? We've been doing that fairly successfully for the last 4 months or so, actually just shaving off 5mins at a time. You could try just 25mins at first and then cut the next A time, we used to cut it by about 15mins if we'd shaved 5mins off the capped nap. Alternatively, since she's already doing 3h 45mins before the first nap, and will give you a nice long one on that, you could consider letting her do that 2h nap but then offering a short late pm CN to get her to a later BT. We've never tried that, I know it works for some, but causes chaos for other LOs - has anyone currently on this thread had success with it?

[Jem88]

trimbler - Hi I haven't tried cutting the AM under 30mins yet as the day before she had the 1 nap, she did 30 AM and then a full 2hr PM and we only had 2 NWs that night - But it was a long day, i think 13hr. For the moment i'm going to stick with 30 AM and 2-2.5hr PM but try to shorten the A time before PM nap by 5-10mins every few days and hope that will shorten our days. Will stick with this for a week or so and see how our nights go.

I thought about long AM and short PM nap but my mum goes to work at 1pm & we somtimes go round on a morning after AM nap so the short AM and long PM works best for us. x