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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2013, 06:51:34 am »
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2013, 07:33:57 am »
Hi just tagging along

DS is 33mo.and I've finally.admitted he's ready to.drop the nap after months of ew and really short nights. I think well have to go cold turkey cos allowing a nap led to another short night and ew....so far

Day 1

Wu 6.30
Bt 6
1 NW

Day 2
Wu 6.30
Nap 2-3 capped
Bt 8.10

day  3
Wu 5.45/6
Bt 6.20
NW 2-3 restless ate 3 am so guess ot...
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2013, 07:37:22 am »
Think I'll keep to a less than 12hr day as long as he seems ok...anyone else gone cold turkey with nnds??
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2013, 07:43:11 am »
Think I'll keep to a less than 12hr day as long as he seems ok...anyone else gone cold turkey with nnds??

On day 4 today Aishi. Here's the link if you want to follow.

Re: Nap dropping mess! clueless and tired right now....HELP PLEASE!!!

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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2013, 11:37:28 am »
Hi ladies.
Just wondering what your night lengths were like when LOs started to drop naps.  Rather than number of hours I'm wondering was it greater than, less than or equal to their regular total sleep (ie nap + night)?

We've had a few dropped naps over the last few months and got night sleep equal to total sleep (nap + night sleep = no nap + night sleep) a few times.
however I've also had:
a no nap day with zero tacking on, just the regular night sleep length
and yesterday had no nap and some additional night sleep but less than the normal total amount of sleep.

I'm kind of expecting nights to be shorter than his regular total sleep.
What did you experience?


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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2013, 17:31:37 pm »
To start with, L would have more sleep (eg 30 mins to an hour more) in total after a no nap day. But now the nap is pretty much gone (just the odd catnap here and there) we are back to her same total amount as before (or a little less, but then she is several months older now than when this all started).
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2013, 18:13:11 pm »
Thanks Cath.

Today was second day of no nap.  We haven't had 2 consecutive days before, it was a bit of a challenge.  He has a chance of longer than regular total tonight, hope he takes it.


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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2013, 20:46:28 pm »
Creations we generally get approx 13hrs at night on no nap days, sometimes 14 if i put him to bed early enough, or we get approx 2hr nap + 11hr night. So I suppose about the same really. Sometimes he will pull a shorter night of 11.5-12hrs after a no nap day & this is usually a sign of him getting OT. Hth.xx

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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2013, 06:04:39 am »
We tend to get the same or a little more... Alexandra just did a run of 6 no nap days and her longest night was 13 hrs 15 mins, averaged 12 hrs 30 mins... we were getting to the point very suddenly that our nights were shrinking and naps were making a very grumpy kid as I had to wake her after 1 hr 30 to keep BT at 8pm.

We moved to one nap very suddenly after a few weeks of PM nap difficulties and waking from AM and PM to keep a routine... same thing now. 

Lesson for today: don't allow naps.  She was starting to be rather tired looking (though behaviour was fine aside from being 2!).. so we did a car nap around 230pm... came into the house at 315 thinking she would be refreshed.. nope, still exhausted so she slept on my chest while I watched TV and she woke at 410 - crabby as hell.  Had trouble settling at BT too.. sigh.

I think we will just tough it out and use SEBT as needed since she will tack generally if BT is early enough.



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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2013, 07:38:23 am »
Thanks.

Seems there isn't really a pattern then, possibly more often the same total sleep or a little more but sometimes less - which is what's happened here too.

Kara, DS is grumpy a lot of the time after his nap and I don't cap at all.  I suspect it's more to do with the nap not suiting him any more rather than being woken early from it.

On 3 of our no nap days he's been in the car at nap time (planned to let him fall to sleep there then transfer to cot for the rest of the nap) and not been the slightest bit lulled to sleep.  Even yesterday on day 2 of no nap I had him in the car at 2.30 (nap is set at 2pm so it was already late and he was showing no tired signs at all) for a good 20 min drive and he didn't even nod.  Grumpy for much of the day though and found it hard to hold himself together during WD for bed, but he has a cold too, plus molars coming so it's no surprise he's got the grump!


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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2013, 08:36:13 am »
Creations, differently from others, we have the same night length, with or without a nap, which is approx 11 h. Due to daycare and working schedule, I can't do EBT, so we have always worked with fixed bt, and he is self-regulating, in the sense that he's offered a nap every day (at daycare kids of 3 and 4 are required to nap) and he "decides" to take it or not. Now, he's having an average of 2 nn days every week, and these days bt is half an hour before, but he usually wakes half an hour before in the morning, so he doesn't tackle. I think that these two nn days are needed to keep the night long enough having a 1 h nap the other days. I decided I am fine with this, until he's happy (and he usually is) and his nights are longer than 10.5 h. His sleep needs dropped to 11.5 h per day in average (11 h night+1 h nap or 11 h night without nap), and it seems to suit him. He's older than your ds though.

About this:
On 3 of our no nap days he's been in the car at nap time (planned to let him fall to sleep there then transfer to cot for the rest of the nap) and not been the slightest bit lulled to sleep.  Even yesterday on day 2 of no nap I had him in the car at 2.30 (nap is set at 2pm so it was already late and he was showing no tired signs at all) for a good 20 min drive and he didn't even nod.
From about 2 yo it was almost impossible for us to let DS sleep in the car, even when he clearly needed it. He started to be able to stay awake if he wanted to, and in the car he had too many stimulation, looking outside of the window, to be willing to sleep. Now, that he's older, he only falls asleep if he wants to. So we have to explain him that we need him to go to sleep in the car, so after we have time to play/going somewhere, otherwise we will need to put him down for a nap and there won't be time for enjoy... if he's convinced, he closes his eyes and falls asleep. Otherwise, no way.
What I mean is that if he's used to fall asleep in the cot in the dark and he's a IS, he can become able to resist to sleep in the car.
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2013, 08:59:13 am »
So second night of nnd.was a disaster...Bt was 6.20 after 11.5 h day... He was up from when i gave dms at 3-5.30 even tho i stayed with him. I left at 5 cos i was getting frustrated and he eventually went back to sleep from 5.30-8. What was that about??

Should i go for 10hr day and 6 pm bt? I dont want another 3am wu!! Or longer day so his body clock sets? Help!

Also if im doing 10.5-11.5hr days and he doesnt tack on how do i prevent wus getting earlier each day??!
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2013, 14:37:11 pm »
He fell asleep on sofa at 2.30...how long should i let him nap for and what time should bt be????

Wu was 8 but he had a 2.5h nw....

Any thoughts or btdt advice??
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2013, 18:46:26 pm »
Creations we generally get approx 13hrs at night on no nap days, sometimes 14 if i put him to bed early enough, or we get approx 2hr nap + 11hr night. So I suppose about the same really. Sometimes he will pull a shorter night of 11.5-12hrs after a no nap day & this is usually a sign of him getting OT. Hth.xx
^^ same. If we do a no nap day (not frequent in this house) and I pd early enough he will sleep till usual WU ie 6pm - 7.30am

Claire, Z sounds so much like O....but a few months behind ;)

We had our 1 no nap day and I sure Z is still making up for it lol. He put himself down for a nap at 1.15pm yesterday! And still sleeping this am at 7.45. Teeth probably more to blame but still!

Z is always a bear after his nap. But always has been. I do find like some of the others if I cap too ugh he is terrible. So I give a good 1.5 usually and accept a slightly shorter night


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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2013, 19:26:30 pm »
Creations - DDs nap days she gets about 12hrs total, no nap days she gets 12-13hrs (sometimes more if she's really pooped).  The problem for her is any length of nap makes her fight bedtime for 30-60min...she just needs so much time to settle if she isn't absolutely 120% tired :(