Support for dropping the nap part 11

[Aishi]

Ugh rach sounds like the poor thing has a lot going on! I would stick with the 12h days if that's what worked best for you if its dev/ regression which is poss at 3yo. If he's poorly tho and needs cu nap I would offer quiet time and let him nap if he wants to. Sorry not much help

So we were doing well with 11h nnds and 13+ h nights but I think that she needs longer days cos of those chattering nws and/ ew...I'm not sure how to fit that into set BT tho

I want BT to be 7/7.30 since earlier BT means that on short nights we have 5.30 wu...so yesterday I did 6.30 BT and she sttn without a peep except briefly at 5.30. Wu was then 7.30 so in order for her not to be ut should I do a 13h day again and 8.30 BTor just set bBT at 7.30 and let her self regulate? I don't like not having the control tho lol

[jessmum46]

I think jumping from 11h days to 13h days is a lot.....if she woke at 7.30 today I'd probably do a 7/7.30 BT and just move it gradually to where you want it to be x

[PineapplePrincess]

I've been really MIA but have been reading everyone's comments. We are totally done with the 1-0 it seems and my lo will willingly still take a nap but for every 30 min he naps, he ends up staying up a whole hour past his bedtime or sometimes even more! Then he really cuts his night super short (9-10 hours). Since putting him in preschool three full days, he has fallen asleep a few times there and ended up going to bed at 9:30/10 and still woke at 7. I asked his teachers to let him do quiet time in the other room with a DVD or toys.

I'm so jealous of all of you who get 12-13 ons. It was only like that for us in the beginning of the 1-0. We get 11 hours max now, sometimes 10.5, but my kid is lower sleep needs. Our days were at 12 hours but we started to get happy night wakings. Then I increased to 12.5. When I started to get nws again, I increased his day to 12.75-13. 13-13.5 seems to work for him as well as an 8 pm set bedtime. We have had this schedule since about mid July and it seems to be working. He usually sleeps 8-7 or  8-6:30.

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Joining in too... Another very lsn LO here at the start of the 1-0. It's coming out in EWs for us - exactly the same as it has for all his transitions. He's currently only taking a 40-45 minute nap if I leave him to sleep,  but we only get short nights then.  I'm currently trying out capping at 30 minutes to see how that goes. Oh, and lots of physical activity. We're getting nap refusal about once a week at the moment. Not quite sussed how to handle NNDs with him yet, cos he doesn't really tack on so I think I need to stick with set bedtime and only do half an hour earlier if he hasn't napped. We don't get any long nights (11.5 hrs would be mega here), so SEBT doesn't really work for us.

Quite looking forward to the nap going, though can't quite believe we're here... Though I've been convinced for ages that he'll be completely nap free by 2 yo, so I guess it has to start sometime!

[TB9]

Welcome LL&J!

DD2 is still doing a cn in the stroller most days.  She absolutely will. not. nap. in her room.  She goes bananas!  So right now, she wakes at 7am, does a cn from 2:30/2:35ish-2:50, then bed around 7:30pm.  If she has a day that she actually does need a nap, she has a horrible night...I'm usually up 3-4times with her overnight if she has  proper nap, so I'll take cns over that any day!

[*Becky*]

M now naps Wed and Sat for up to 1.5 hours and does not nap the other days...she def still needs the odd nap, she gets OT pretty easily and by Friday which is her day at the CM she is shattered. We are getting BT issues which we have never had and more on NND's. Some of it is OT and some of it is developmental I think.

[PineapplePrincess]

Lovelylilyandjack, your lo isn't even 2 yet? Did I read that correctly? Wow that's pretty early for the 1-0, but not unheard of. My son had some play group friends who ended naps before 2.5. I am happy my lo lasted till almost 3. I'd say naps officially ended late august, so about a month and a half before he turned 3. He does get crabby around 3-5, but we pull through. If you have an lsn child, then a set time for bed is better. We tried super early bedtime in the beginning and it only worked for two weeks. We got lots of happy night wakings if he was put to bed too early. I aim for 13-13.5 hours awake now and it seems better. He is asleep by 8 and up by 6:30/7.

I am a teacher and some kids in my class who are 8-9 years old sleep around 10 hours a night. I doubt my son will be sleeping that much at that age. He seems to take after me. I'm fine with 7-7.5 hours of sleep. My husband needs a good 8-8.5 hours. If I get more than 8 I feel way more tired. Last night I fell asleep before 10 since I took the flu shot and woke up at 6:30. I have been feeling sluggish all day even after working out.

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Yes, he's 19 months now. He's very lsn, the same as Tinks DD2. I'm not really surprised we're here - my daughter is slightly lsn and stopped napping altogether by 2 and a quarter. Jack dropped to one nap about 3-4 months earlier than her so it's not surprising he's dropping naps altogether a few months earlier too.  I agree with you on SEBT - it doesn't work for us, and even a slightly EBT only works if J is OT.

Capping is working for us now though - after 5 days of 30 minute naps he's finally lengthened his nights again to 10 hrs 45ish and we're getting decent WU times of 6.20 - 6.30.  Long may it last! 

[Aishi]

Its funny how theyre all so different? My dd is hsn but dropped the nap before 2.5- I totally wasnt expecting it! And super ebt work really well for her.

Weve been doing set bt at 6 but very loosely as she doesnt do well with day length longer than 11h20 normally. Last night was odd. She had a happy nw from 4.30-6. Im thinking perhaps ut after 4 nights of 13h ns?

She just woke now at 8.10 but im thinking to use today to try and push whole day out with clock change coming up...

[jessmum46]

Sounds like a good plan x

[rachsk8]

OK - I need some thought here please!  MY DS (now 3) dropped his nap a few months ago (apart from the very rare car nap in the late afternoon).  Last week he had a huge week - family from overseas staying, his birthday party, lots of activities etc.  He's been clearly tired the past several days, and doing EW's etc.  He had a 1hr catch-up nap yesterday afternoon, and still went to sleep last night pretty easily at 8.20pm (took him about 30mins, not the usual 60mins we often get after a nap).  He had a brief NW at 1.50am and then wanted to get up at 6.20am but I told him it was not time to get up yet, and he went back off to sleep.  He slept and slept and slept... and no, I didn't wake him (my bad?) until 10am!!!!  And he would have kept sleeping.  That was virtually a whopping 14hrs ONS!!  This has NEVER happened before, and I was getting worried that he was not well or something.  Anyway, what do I do tonight now!?!  His normal BT is 7.30pm, 8-8.30pm with a nap.  His normal WU is 7 - 7.30am.  He does mostly 12-12.5hr days.  Have I really botched things up by letting him sleep that late?  Would you do a normal BT?  Opinions please!  xx

[trimbler]

Wow that was a long night!! Well... I was going to say you might be ok with the time change coming up but then saw your location, I guess it'll be the other way round for you, if you do daylight saving, so you'd be wanting your days to be getting earlier rather than later! I don't think I'd do normal bedtime but maybe try for 9pm-ish? To kind of split the difference between normal BT and normal A time? What do you think?

[rachsk8]

Yes we actually changed to daylight savings a few weeks back which worked ok for us as we left BT alone (was 6.30pm which is now 7.30pm) and WU were a more respectable 7am ish... But things have bee quite wonky since then so still finding our groove. The other night I did EBT of 6.45pm as he only had a 10.75hr night but he woke 6.15am still (meant a 11.25hr night but he really needed more to catch up) and now, this! Yes I'm guessing a normal BT would be too early... Maybe 9pm is a good idea. So hard to tell with Ds how tired he is... His tired signs re not very clear normally.... Gah!

[trimbler]

How did it go? I find the same with tired signs, throughout the 1-0 it's been more a case of 'does this nap/day length result in a night length which leaves him refreshed or tired in the morning?' rather than trying for BT when he seems tired, as that may be counterproductive and he's often gone hyper when tired, might get a second wind later (when we've had to keep him up) etc.

[Haribo2012]

I think I need to jump on board here too....we we're getting a nice predictable 11 night and 1.5 nap but last 2 weeks we've had total refusal to go to bed, just shouts every excuse known if in bed. I have been having to do a strategic car ride or buggy walk to get a nap. He seems best on a 30 min CN and 12 hour day but I'm worried OT will kick in.
Yesterday looked shattered by 1pm so I suggested we for a sleep and was greeted with a huge nooooomummy he eventually nodded off on the sofa so I let him have 1 hour but oh my this spirited monkey does not like to be woken....horrendous mood for 2 hours after that, then BT took forever with bouncing on the bed, every excuse again so ended up with a 13.5 hour day.
Woke at 5.45 am so 10 hour night 
And the dreaded clock change urghh
Honestly not a clue what I'm doing....!