Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #27

[choc]

Good luck!

[labrodyk]

So, I don't know what's going on but would love some thoughts. Today panned out like the. Slow and I'm not sure if it's OT or UT that's messing us up or a combination of both. Any ideas on the best way forward. We're cutting 4 teeth in the space of a week so I know gums are unsettled but our routine feels way off!!

WU: 6.20 (10hrs ONS)
Nap 1: 10.50; asleep 11.00-12.35 chatting.
^went to swimming lesson and she managed to stay awake in the car and wanted to play when we got home at 10.30.
Nap 2: 4.20; not asleep until 4.45 - woke her at 5.05 (she was FAST asleep, took me a while)
^ screamed when we went to bedroom
BT: 7.20; rolling around the cot and not asleep until after 8pm!
^ screamed from 6pm and when I left her bedroom. Still won't let DH anywhere near her or me out of her sight.

WU: 6.30; again 10.5hrs!

[choc]

I would say that routine looks OK to be honest, but that my ds2 could do 3 hours A after a 20 min nap. Maybe you tried for Bt too early?

[Scottishmummy]

Labrodyk...I think that routine looks ok..my DD is also now doing around 4.5hrs A time before her nap (ideally to get a good nap ..it's often getting pushed longer but that's another issue!)

I suppose you weigh up whether you want to risk trying a super EBT (e.g. 5.30) and see if she could cope with that and do a long night..in case the waking from CN is disrupting things..but I know she doesn't cope well with OT so you might need to keep that 15/20mins late afternoon and a longer day/shorter night until she is ready to go for 1 nap.  We are getting screaming at bath & BT too right now but I think it is a combination of tired and SA as I've just gone back to work.

DD has done 1 nap days for 5 days now. Over the weekend she did 2-2.5hr naps and 12-13hr nights! But the last 2 days she's had her A time pushed due to nursery pick up and only slept an hr 12-15-13.15. She's still doung a 12-12.5hr night though, which is same total sleep as we were getting on 2 nap days (2hr day sleep, 10.5hr night) so maybe it's ok? It doesn't seem like enough nap though.

[choc]

SM we are having similar. He has been on 1 nap for 9 days now. We were having 1hr30 then it upped to 2hrs/2hrs15 and we had a sttn til 6.20 without his usual 5am shout. then he went back to nursery on Monday for his full day and only did 1hr15. Followed by a terrible night and then nap at home today (after morning in nursery) was a very broken 1hr30. I'm gutted it feels like we were really getting somewhere and now it's crashing down due to 1 short nap at nursery.

[Scottishmummy]

Glad to know it's not just us! So frustrating though  Do you think it's just a case of pushing on through? My DS wasn't ready for 1 nap until 18mo so I am a bit cautious about it but I've noticed lots of LOs here seem to go to 1 nap closer to 1yo.

[choc]

I am just going to push through. Don't have much choice really, only other option is short nap at nursery in morning as that's all he'll take and then short nap after lunch at home before school run because he is ut.  So yeah just going to push through, trying to be really consistent. His morning wu time varies so much though, it makes things hard.

[labrodyk]

Ok, I'm trying really hard but we're both struggling. She screamed and showed all tired signs from 8am! Was such hard work keeping her up, only to have her wake after 40 minutes crying.

WU: 6.30 (10.5 ons)
Nap 1: 10.50; 10.55-11.40; 1.10-2.10
BT: 5.53; cried when I put her down. Took about 30 minutes to fully fall asleep.  OT?

Since she wasn't crying or upset I just left her and after 1.5hrs of rolling around and chatting she fell back to sleep for about 40-60 minutes. Will try and get through to 6pm.  I wonder if the garbage trucks that came by right as she was transitioning woke her?

Also, when do you all fit in feeds and meals?

[JennVanessa1083]

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!

Just when you think things are improving teeth throws a money wrencg into things.

So we were pushing through with one nap doing occasional 2 nap days every 4-5 days. Now he was 4 molars slowly like very slowly cutting through and things are crazy!

He's having OT nights or maybe UT where 1 nap days it's OT then 2 nap days are probably uT/OT bc of the day sleep and 14.5 lengths of days.

I'm so confused! Anyone have experience or tips. I seen to be flipping between 1 and 2 nap days like every other day but no matter what I'm getting 3-4 NW 

[choc]

How's it going today labrodyk?
Our meals/snacks look like this
Wu 6-7
7.30/8 breakfast
11.30/45 lunch
2.30/3 big snack and cup of milk
5.45 dinner (quite late because that's when dh gets in and we like to eat all together)
7pm 8oz bottle cows milk

Jennifer that's rough. Maybe time to stick to 1 nap now? Get his body clock set? That could be really bad advice though, I don't know! I think I would though!

[labrodyk]

Hey choc!
She did 12hrs overnight but only 1.5hrs at the most for nap - unsettled after about an hour...now what?! I'm writing down the whole day - perhaps I should try to move food arond?

Wu: 6.30
Oob: 7.00
breakfazt: 7.30
Cup of milk: 8.30
Snack: 10.00
Nap: 11.00-12.30

Then we did lunch but not sure how to play the rest of the day now...

[choc]

Is it a really big snack at 10? I would push that snack as late as I could and make sure it's a big one!
We too are only getting 1hr30 nap now after having a few 2hrs. Not sure why apart from possibly ot. Not much I can do about that though.

[labrodyk]

She looked like she wanted to fall asleep in the car on the way home from school pickup at 3/3.30 but has perked up here at home. Put her down in cot at 4.20 and she was fussing for 20 minutes so I decided to just get her up and do EBT. PD at 5.20 but kinda skipped the play after bath we normally do and just fed her a bottle in her room, had a quick cuddle and popped her down. She started crying and got fussy but fell asleep by 5.40 (20 minutes).

Choc - I try to make it big but she's often too grumpy and tired to eat much of anything. What do you suggest I offer? What kinds of things do you feed your LO?

SM - are you just pushing through after a short nap and to what time? My DS was not ready to drop to 1 nap until 15mo so I'm worried I'm pushing AJ far too much and she won't be able to sustain it...she's not even 1 yet
Should I be adding back in a 2 nap day at all? How do you know when to do it?

[choc]

I would give protein snack, not fruit and veg. Cheese, yogurt, bread sticks and humus, slices of ham etc

[labrodyk]

That's what I've been giving her but Will give a larger serving.