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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #330 on: February 18, 2008, 12:41:44 pm »
Wasn't bad?? Almost 12.5 hours sleep with no NW is fantastic!! Sounds like you have cracked it  :)

As far as naptimes go, I think you can probably trust your instincts and put her down at 10am if you think that's the right time. Its pretty evident by the massive improvements you're seeing that M's problems were more about learning independent sleep skills than about routine.

As always, my only real advice is to be consistent. So if you're going to go by A times when working out naptimes and bedtimes then stick with that for a few days before being tempted to tweak.

As for the catnap - 45 mins max I would say. But really, what are the chances of her sleeping longer than that anyway?!!

Ollie was a pretty touchy baby (and is still a sensitive toddler!). I think your second baby has to be a lot more easy going cos you can't be as responsive to their needs as you were with the first. Sometimes we create more problems than we solve by trying so hard to do everything perfectly with our first child! It's just not possible with your second and you have to roll with the punches a little more - Amy mostly has 30-45 min naps, OT? UT? I don't know! It's virtually impossible to get her down for a nap at the right time cos there's so much else going on, I just have to do my best and not worry about it provided she's sleeping OK at night  ::)
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #331 on: February 18, 2008, 15:32:47 pm »
I don't know- she woke this morning after 40 mins or so at 10:44am, so I guess the next nap will be about 1:45pm-2pm???  (Actually, I put her in her crib at 1:50pm, and it's now 2:37pm, and she's in there complaining.  Too early?  I'm sooo tired of this guessing game)

She started rubbing her nose about 9:20am, so maybe she could have fallen asleep then. 

I think it's combination routine and independent sleep- as even when she was going to sleep independently, her naps were mostly short.
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #332 on: February 18, 2008, 19:52:52 pm »
I swear I'm going to scream...

It's now 3:15pm, I've been doing WI/PD/WO for 1 hour and 25 mins, and she will not go to sleep.  At what point do I give up???

I think I'm going to give it another 10 mins and get her up, feed her, and put her to bed.

Can't take it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #333 on: February 18, 2008, 20:40:53 pm »
Nightmare  :(

There were days when I did WI/PD/WO with Ollie for over 2 hours. As New Mum said, you've just got to be more determined that they will sleep than they are that they won't!

It's starting to look as though we might be getting back into 2-1 territory  :-\
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #334 on: February 18, 2008, 21:02:38 pm »
I'm thinking the same Laura.  I would be sticking with limiting the am nap to max 30mins to ensure you get a pm nap as it doesn't look like she will take a pm nap if her am nap is too long.  If that fails to work then I would limit the am nap to 20mins and put her down sooner for pm nap. 
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #335 on: February 18, 2008, 21:28:43 pm »
I managed 1.5 hours of WI/PD/WO, and then decided even if she DID sleep, I'd have to limit it to 20 mins in order to have a decent bedtime. 

So I just put her to bed, at 4:40pm, after almost 6 hours A time.  I'm in for a fun night!

OK so tomorrow what time would the am nap be?  Is it 10am, limited to 30 mins?  And then when would the next nap be?  What if she wakes at 5am, then what time would the nap be?  Am I still fixing nap times at set times or by A time?  Sorry for all the questions, but I know I'm currently in dangerous territory.
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #336 on: February 19, 2008, 11:48:00 am »
Last night-

Asleep at 4:40pm
Few cries at 9:30pm
Awake at 6:06am

Very, very good night!

But what do I try today?
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #337 on: February 19, 2008, 12:45:33 pm »
I'd try 10am for 30mins max.  Hope I'm not to late  :)
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #338 on: February 19, 2008, 12:50:06 pm »
You're not too late  :)

Assuming all goes well with 10am nap for 30 mins, what time is the next nap?  1:30pm?
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #339 on: February 19, 2008, 13:14:32 pm »
yep, 1.30 asleep by 2pm hopefully  :)
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #340 on: February 19, 2008, 14:19:27 pm »
Wow, sounds like M is responding really well to the sleep training, she must be really catching up with those long nights. I hope todays naps go bettre and if not then you know you are heading for the 2-1 again  :)
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #341 on: February 19, 2008, 18:26:17 pm »
Ugh- she's refusing the 2nd nap again today.  It's only been a few mins so hopefully all is not lost. 

She slept 30 mins this morning (it may have been a few more) as I'm not positive what time she fell asleep (my back was to her, as otherwise she's trying to engage me).

Do I aim for 20 mins tomorrow at 10am?
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #342 on: February 19, 2008, 18:56:24 pm »
Did she go to sleep?

What you do tomorrow depends on how today pans out at the end of the day I think.  If she fights the nap for sometime then only takes a 'relatively' short nap then it may be worth trying to limit am nap to 20mins.  She is used to short naps so she might be OK with being woke up at 20mins but most LO's take a few days to get used to it, and most are very grumpy at first after being woken at 20mins.  If its going to work you will need to stick it out for a good week again to see how it goes.  Remember you must shorten her mid day A time if you do only let her sleep for 20mins in AM.
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #343 on: February 19, 2008, 19:00:05 pm »
Well mercifully she did go to sleep at about 2:10pm ish.  She needs a bit more calming down for the afternoon nap, moreso than the am nap.

I guess I'll see how long she sleeps!
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Re: 12 month old with 30-45 min naps
« Reply #344 on: February 19, 2008, 19:21:40 pm »
If she hasn't totally refused the nap this afternoon then I would stick with the 30 mins nap at 10am and pm nap offered at 1:30pm for a few days. She has to get used to the new routine for a little while before you can tell if it needs tweaking - her body doesn't know what time to expect the pm nap yet, so this may be why she is resisting it a bit.

Great night last night tho Leslie! You must be feeling much more human with a few decent nights sleep under your belt - I am feeling just the opposite because of the inevitable fall out from our weekend :P Despite having one bad and one DREADFUL night's sleep and all his naps in the car, Ollie has still refused his nap for the last two days in a row  :o Got him in bed and asleep by 6pm tonight tho so fingers crossed he'll start to catch up. Oh and we also had to move Amy into a cot (she was still in a Moses basket believe it or not!!) when we got home and last night she woke at 10, 1, 3, 5:30 and up at 7 ;D I'm sure tonight will be MUCH better!
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