Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #26

[Chloevalentine]

Hi my lo will be 12 months next week and we have been struggling with afternoon nap. For two or three days he fought the nap or wouldn't fall asleep or it was too late for the afternoon nap and yesterday we tried one nap which worked well but i think probably because he was catching up on sleep. He was up at 7 stayed awake almost 4.5 hours and had his first nap from 1130-130! He never takes a 2 hr nap   But it worked out well and I put him down for bed at 7 with no problem. I'm wondering how today will be.  If I can keep him up until at least 1130 or if he only sleeps an hour it will be hard to skip that afternoon nap and too many hours until bt but too late for an afternoon catnap. This is tough. Any suggestions?  I'm also worried that he will be hungry for lunch sleeping from 1130-130.

[MarciaMSPT]

Hi ChleoValentine!

I started giving my LO who is almost 12 months old a snack around 11:30 before he goes down at 12ish.  You may want to give your LO a hefty snack and see how that pans out.  Our meals got a bit messed up when I first started it but they are smoothing out now and I wonder if the larger the snack, the longer mine sleeps (?)

Anyhow... our LO goes down at 12ish and sleeps 1.5 to 2 hours (sometimes close to 3!)  and then I put him in the car around 5ish (pm) to force a 10 minute CN so he can be happy through till BT at 8pm.  It's been working very well for us.  You may want to force a CN earlier as your LO is going down for first nap earlier than mine.  I found it took a bit to push the A time but I would walk for 10-15 min with my LO outside when I was trying to push A time.

Hope that helps!

Kelly... woaw!  What great news!  We are dedicating our Baby to The Lord.  much like Hannah did in the bible with Samuel.  It's just part of our church service.  His birthday is on June 21st - same day as his dedication.  How do make a ticker for my baby age at the bottom of posts?

Hugs!

[Chloevalentine]

I will try the snack! he doesn't do well with short catnaps. He ajways wakes up crying snd cranky adterwards not sure if it's worth it but I will give it a shot. The walking is a great idea if I didn't live on a busy road with no sidewalks. I have to put him in car and drive to a road to walk him and he def will fall asleep in the car. I think I can push him to at least 4.5 hrs A time without a problem but I'm just worried if I get his usual one hour nap and he will be up at 1230 and then I'll have to give him an afternoon nap which he will fight and it will be late around 430 and will mess up bedtime. He's actually still asleep. He was awake around 545 for a little while and fell back.

[Kellyjs]

Hi again chloevalentine, nice to see you on here.

We actually do lunch at 11.30, but our day runs earlier than yours and marcia's 6.30-6.30 (on a good day!). Then snack when she wakes at around 2-2.30 ish. Tea at 4-4.30.

I'd see how you go with the CN. Try not to worry too much (says she that's freaked out sooo many times on here!  ) if he doesn't do it do EBT. Hopefully then if he tacks on the missed sleep and pulls a good 11-12hr night, it's much easier to push the A first thing. It really depends how your LO is. Mine prefers a shorter A to bed so I do 6hrs in the am, 2hr nap (hopefully) then 4hrs to bed.

If he pulls an hr nap, just offer the CN as before. Yep, BT does get later and later during these transitions... Just look at busterb's previous post about her day. If he does a 2hr+ nap I'd doubt you'd get a CN but you can try if you like!!

Well after a great wu this am,  I've just put her down at 12.15pm.. Might be a tiny bit too early considering the great night last night. Should've gone to 6hrs really and tried to keep this new thing of waking up at 6.30. Oh well, if she naps less than 2hrs I'll get her down at her usual BT and see how we fare.

Marcia- re the ticker, just click on mine and it'll take you to a site that you have to input your Los bday. It'll set up a link that you have to post into your profile section on here, then it'll show up every time. It took me a few goes, but I got there in the end.. Let me know if you need any help with it and I'll try to remember. And the dedication sounds great, is it similar to a christening here? That's where we have a church service to offer our baby to Christ, has a cross in blessed olive oil on their forehead, then their forehead is wet in holy water from the font by the vicar. O just had this done the other week xx

[gb18]

Hi everyone! Fab news re the late wake up Kelly. Crossing my fingers it stays for you. Marcia, sounds like u have a good plan going on. Bet it won't be long till you can push your lo to a 12.30 nap and then hopefully you will be on a one nap day.

I decided to push on through with our day and it turned out ok. D slept for 1.5 hours in nursery. Obviously he would have had more here but think 2 hours plus would be impossible to expect at nursery. He fell asleep after nearly 6 hours A so think he was shattered! OT by bed do some tears but later wu of 7.20 so back to original plan today. Def just going to stick with a rough set plan now of one nap I think unless we have super early wu. In nursery full days the rest of the week as I am back to work so just hoping OT does not build too much. Like u all said though it is to be expected so just hope it is not too bumpy a ride!!!!

D is also very clingy and more whingey so could be a ww but probably due to me leaving him too. I have no family near us so nursery is the first time he has been left.

How are u doing Laura with your boys? Tough that u can't get an earlier bt. Are they still waking in the night? What is your easy like now?

How are u getting on chloevalentine?

Can't remember who mentioned snacks but I also sometimes give a snack then late lunch as fits in better sometimes with not only my lo but also family time. Like us to eat together where possible x

[Chloevalentine]

Hi! Tiday was a mess he woke at 730 was going to give him lunch at 1130 and to bed by 12 but I got stuck out and he ended up napping in car. And then I tried to transfer him which didbt work so I fed him lunch at 1245 Abd tried for a nap at 130 he just sat awake in his crib and never fell asleep. Then I tried again at 3 and he finally fell asleep by 315. He's still asleep at 435 Abd I plan on waking him by 445 so u don't mess up bedtime. I'll shoot for 745 3 hrs A time. This is tough

[gb18]

Oh dear! Been there before chloevalentine! Just cincole yourself with the fact that he was not tired enough to sleep before therefore at least he is not OT. Just a pain getting a decent structure to your day.

After a seemingly perfect day yest, 7.20 wu, 2 hour nap and bt 7.30 lo woke at 6. God knows how is going to hold out till 12 for a nap in nursery. Will just have to tell them and see what happens. Been upset this morning as feel so bad leaving him and worrying how tired he is going to get but I have no other option. Just first day worries I guess.

Hope everyone is ok

[Kellyjs]

Really feeling for you gb18, it must be tough sending him to nursery for the first time. I think a 1.5hr nap is amazing considering! Sending you lots of ((hugs)).

We had a wu of 5.50 today, not too bad I suppose but not great. She'll have to go for her nap earlier today as we have her development check at 1.30. It was arranged ages ago before her nap shifted. Oh well.

So sorry about your day chloevalentine. We've had that here too. It's really hard trying to get the timing right after they've had a short nap. I did 2hrs after O had a 20mins car nap before and that seemed to work, but bet it'll never work again!

Today is another day hey! 

[MarciaMSPT]

Thanks Kellyjs...  I tried the html code for the ticker but will have to work a bit more to figure it out.

Just a note of encouragement to our mommy group here... I was scared to death to try this and that... (as kellyjs said before!) but eventually I had to take the plunge and try things...some worked some didn't... like our LO does not do EBT at all, period.  However... he's fine with pushing A time etc...  I've not much time right now but wanted to encourage moms who were afraid to try this or that... might as well... got nothing to lose except the same old same old!  You might be pleasantly surprised!

hugs to all!

[Kellyjs]

You'll need to paste the link under the forum profile tab and in the signature box.. Took me awhile!!

If we don't hear from you before, good luck with the dedication and the first bday party. Hope it goes well ((hugs)) x

[MarciaMSPT]

Hey Kellyjs!  Thanks!  I'll figure the ticker out in time... other things on my list to get done! 

LO had a glorious 2.5 hour nap today...was so thankful as grandparents are coming in later this afternoon and he will be jazzed to see them.  Thinking NO car CN today as nap went to about 2:40ish...

Thanks for the well wishes... oh, to answer your question, no baptizing at our dedication as we feel this is a personal decision that he will need to decide when he is old enough... just our part in dedicating him to the Lord. 

Hope to jump on here every now and then though!

Hugs to all!

[BusterB]

Help ladies - feels like it's all falling apart a bit!

My son's feeding and sleeping are all over the place.... (he was 10m old at the weekend)
This was yesterday;

W/u 7:15
A - 4hr20
Nap 1 - 1hr20
A - 3hr
Nap 2 - 25m in car (couldn't wake earlier)
A - 4hr10

BT 8:15pm

Woke after 40m and REALLY cried for 1 hour20 mins.... He just wanted to be on the boob! He has no other symptoms of teething or pain that I can tell, just couldn't seem to get back to sleep. Took me until 10:10pm eventually.

Then he woke at 4:20am and took me 1hr20 to get him back to sleep.

We overslept until 8:15 this morning so I though I'd shoot for a long lunchtime nap - so did 4hr45 A this morning - but he woke after just 40mins.... then I thought I'd try feeding back to sleep & he was on the boob for an hour but only drifted off for a few mins in the middle.

I have no idea what on earth is going on??? Any thoughts??

The last couple of weeks since his virus he just wants to feed ALL the time, I think because he ate so frequently when ill he's in the habit now! Previously feeds were short and every 4-5 hours.... Now he is feeding at least every 2 hours, sometimes more & they are long feeds too! Although I don't think he is 'eating' ... he just likes being on there.

Where am I going wrong? I'm starting to feel very frustrated but I know it's not his fault, I want to fix it somehow!!

[Kellyjs]

Oh big ((hugs)) Busterb. I'm so sorry things are a little rough. Do you think she's going through a growth spurt? I'm afraid I can't advise on bf as I gave up at 3mo. Might be worth getting some eyes on it on the bf board?

Otherwise, could he possibly be OT? 4hr10 to bed after a 25mins CN isn't much. Even O who does monster A's couldn't manage that before bed. Waking in the first 1-2hrs after BT normally signifies OT too.

Another thing it could be is teeth. I know none are due quite yet, but the molars are moving around under there and I think can be quite painful. After that good A first thing this morning, I would definitely expect more than one sleep cycle, so I'm thinking there's some discomfort somewhere?? Any new foods been introduced recently?? Xx

[BusterB]

Thanks for the hug Kelly - am feeling a bit sorry for myself, so it's appreciated!! 

After a CN my son really can seem to handle monster A.. it amazes me. I just couldn't get him to bed any sooner - so I'm not sure what to do?? If I try, the feed is just a display of acrobatics and then he finishes and it's like "now what?" and cue lots & lots of crying! He seems to need to be really tired at BT, but maybe that is pushing into OT... so if it is OT, which I definitely considered, I now have zero idea how to fix it!

He usually seems to struggle more with long A in the morning to be honest - which is odd after a whole night's sleep! But at least he usually does a decent 1st nap - hasn't done 40m like today in months!

No new foods that I can think of & he really didn't seem in any pain or anything.

I'm so confused & I really don't know what to do with the rest of today....??

It seems totally pointless going for a CN as it is so late in the day & he's pretty lively right now, but there is no way I'll do BT before 7pm... so I'm at a bit of a loss now! He can't possibly do another 2.5 hours on 40m sleep?!

ETA: I took the plunge & we went out in the car for a 15m CN... Rather do that and a later BT than EBT! Will have to hope he doesn't need a monster A after just 15m sleep! 

[Kellyjs]

Hugs a plenty here! I get down about O's sleep too, it's just a little all consuming sometimes isn't it?

That is amazing, O can handle a huge A after a CN but not so much before bed so I suppose I've always been really lucky there. How did you get on with a 15mins CN and BT?

Many lo's I've seen on here prefer a shorter A in the morning. I'm thinking if yours can handle 4+ hrs on just 25mins, more one nap days might have to be on the horizon for you once you find out what's bothering him. I'm sure whatever it it will become apparent in the next day or so. Any wonder weeks about now?

Xx